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Bengeo 28th December 2018 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pdk42 (Post 466956)
It'll be f4.5 and about £3k - prediction!

Wishful thinking .... :p

MJ224 28th December 2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pdk42 (Post 466956)
It'll be f4.5 and about £3k - prediction!

That's my hearing aid down the drain for another 18 months...……..Pardon..*chr

Phill D 28th December 2018 10:45 PM

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Thanks Dave I'm in no rush so happy to wait a while. Why did your wife have to have her lens replaced?

DavidB 29th December 2018 07:39 AM

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Speculation that the 150 - 400mm might be acheived by means of a 120 - 320mm zoom with an integral 1.25 teleconvertor interested me.

Could that produce the cheaper, lighter, more compact lens that many people want?

DavyG 29th December 2018 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Phill D (Post 467000)
Thanks Dave I'm in no rush so happy to wait a while. Why did your wife have to have her lens replaced?

The 100-400mm developed a problem not long after we bought it, the lens would randomly start to make a loud whirring sound which I suspect was either the lens stabilisation system or the focus motor malfunctioning.

The lens still functioned well however, it obviously had a fault.

We sent it in for repair and they simply replaced it with a new lens, it seems Panasonic don’t have a repair system in UK. This may have changed in the interim though.

Dave

Phill D 29th December 2018 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DavyG (Post 467025)
Panasonic don’t have a repair system in UK.

Dave

That's another thing that's made me hesitate.

MJ224 30th December 2018 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Phill D (Post 467035)
That's another thing that's made me hesitate.

ye but...………….

Its a quality lens, and for it to go wrong you must have bad luck. Touch wood, mine was second hand and has not put a foot wrong in three years or so. Well looked after I have to add...………..*chr

DavyG 30th December 2018 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MJ224 (Post 467056)
ye but...………….

Its a quality lens, and for it to go wrong you must have bad luck. Touch wood, mine was second hand and has not put a foot wrong in three years or so. Well looked after I have to add...………..*chr

I agree, it is a quality lens.

My wife’s lens was one of the first available in UK, there were a number of early lenses that had problems, I understand Panasonic simply replaced them.

In Panasonic’s defence, I don’t recall reading any recent reports of issues with the 100-400mm.

I would still recommend the 300mm Pro over the 100-400mm if finances allow.

Dave

stevewestern 30th December 2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidB (Post 467007)
Speculation that the 150 - 400mm might be acheived by means of a 120 - 320mm zoom with an integral 1.25 teleconvertor interested me.

Could that produce the cheaper, lighter, more compact lens that many people want?

Now that would be interesting.
I'm on the verge of selling my Olympus gear - I also have some Fuji gear, and it's become the only camera I use now.
I've been holding off selling as the new Olympus body intrigues me, as does a 120-300 with built in converter...
Might sell my EM1 mk2 soon though as I fear prices will start to drop and hold on to the lenses I have for a while.

Bikie John 30th December 2018 02:37 PM

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Sorry Steve, I'm not going to buy your E-M1 Mk II this time! But I still have the Mk I that I bought last time you baled out :)

John

Tordan58 4th January 2019 02:30 PM

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I think that the rumoured lens will be F/4 . F/4.5 or higher while introducing a rumoured MC20 at the same time puzzles me a bit, not sure about the AF performance at F/9 . Or could it be that the MC20 is intended for the 40-150 F/2.8 and/or 300 F/4? Or could it be that the lens is F/4.5 as the original rumour said, in which case the integrated 1.25X TC will provide up to 500mm F/5.6, a round figure.

That rumoured lens, filling the 150-400 mm range would be a compelling offering even though I personally don't use telephoto zooms that often, but I clearly see the advantage when for instance photographing sports or on safari. As comparison objects, high grade "PRO" lenses, we have the Canon 200-400 F/4 with integrated 1.4X extender (11k USD) or the Nikon 180-400 F/4 with integrated 1.4 TC (12k USD).

If the latest rumoured specs are correct and if the lens is F/4 and expecting that Olympus will succeed in the optical design to provide top notch IQ "PRO" throughout the zoom range I am certain it will have a price tag detering many of us from bying it.

As reference I have used the 300 F/4 which if I remember correctly costed 2.5k USD when introduced. If the rumoured lens is an F/4 it would require ~140% more glass matter than the 300 F/4. If it's an F/4.5 then it would require around 65% more glass matter. Then on top of this adding the cost for the zoom mechanism and the integrated TC which I guess would add 1k or maybe even more.

So my guess: F/4.5: 4.5k USD and F/4: 7k USD. Could we envision F/4 and a bundle with the EM1.X at a price tag of 9.995 kUSD?

Slower than F/4.5 e.g. 400 F/5.6 would not make that much much sense as the landscape is already occupied by 100-400 F/6.3 which is priced at 1.6 kUSD.

Prices in Europe would be higher.

Tordan58 9th January 2019 03:07 PM

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Thinking deeper about it... if we put the rumoured 2.0TC aside for a moment, either a false rumour or intended for other lens/es.

And then imagine F/4.5. If the rumoured built-in 1.25X TC turns out to be 1.4X instead then the rumoured lens could be used as 400 F/4.5 or as 560 F/6.3

This would be same speed as the Panasonic 100-400 however outperforming it: larger zoom range (100-560) by actioning a switch/button, dual IS support and most important 1 1/3 stops faster (89mm front lens diameter instead of 63mm). Would it be possible to bring the weight within 2kg?

Priced competitively such a lens would certainly attract many presumtive users in search for a portable, hand-held, weather proof setup capable of delivering great results as long as light conditions are acceptable (calling for ISO 1600 or less with the existing sensor as far as I am concerned).

I know from own experience that 560 mm with camera IBIS only can easily be operated hand-held for sharp results (Canon 400 F/5.6 + 1.4 Extender + Metabones), adding 2 axis OIS would be really sweet. I also know the EM1.1/EM1.2 AF works at F/8 so it will work at F/6.3.

Bengeo 9th January 2019 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tordan58 (Post 467799)
And then imagine F/4.5. If the rumoured built-in 1.25 TC becomes reality then the rumoured lens could be used as 400 F/4.5 --> 560 F/6.3

That would be with a 1.4x TC? If it is a 1.25x TC then it would be 500 f5.6

My old Minolta 400mm f4.5 prime (a lovely lens) was about 2kg. I'd be surprised (and very pleased) if they could make a zoom + IS + TC for less than that.

Tordan58 9th January 2019 06:41 PM

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Thanks for spotting my mistake. I was thinking 1.4 but had the 1.25 rumour open on the screen while typing. I meant 1.4x.

Tordan58 10th January 2019 08:56 AM

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I have now edited the post to correct the typo.


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