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Dave in Wales 6th May 2018 02:57 PM

Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Expensive 'white-elephant' or the best thing since sliced bread.

I thought one might complement my E-M1.2 but having second thoughts.

I've read a few conflicting reports, this is the one that has stuck...... https://www.digitalrev.com/article/5...disappointment

Justin44 6th May 2018 04:28 PM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
I love mine, great little camera. Like the look, feel,size, picture quality. Just keep having to talk myself out of pro lenses.

Simon Bee 6th May 2018 05:26 PM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Personally I take no notice of reviews, if a camera 'interests' me I'll get one in my hands and see what 'I' think. So what do I think? ..... well I have two;) ..... one black, one silver so I'll sum it up in two words .... bloody brilliant!

Simon

doggel 6th May 2018 06:08 PM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
I love mine:)
Aesthetically a delight (to me, if not to the writer of that review you referenced) and in use also a delight (I use mine with the lovely 7-14 Pro, the 12-40 Pro, and the Panasonic 35-100)
I have gone through quite a few camera/lens brands over recent years, and this is the combo that I am finally content with. Even the much maligned menu is great IMO once you become familiar with the "super control panel" which is an inspired piece of work IMO :)

Growltiger 6th May 2018 10:11 PM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
I already had an E-M1 which my wife uses and an E-M1 II which I use.
I then bought the Pen-F for two reasons.
1. We needed a backup body so that if one of the cameras fails/gets broken/stolen we will each still have a camera. There are times when this is essential to us.
2. I wanted a smaller system for carrying around. So I got the Pen-F and also bought the tiny Panasonic 12-32 to go with it.

The reasons in that article seem feeble. I love this little camera. I was out using it today. It is very similar to the E-M1 II in its operation and menus, and it complements it perfectly.

I bought mine new for 700 (grey import).

Phill D 7th May 2018 06:02 AM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Dave I just wondered why from your experience you were having second thoughts?

Dave in Wales 7th May 2018 09:29 AM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phill D (Post 446651)
Dave I just wondered why from your experience you were having second thoughts?

I'm aesthetically drawn to the PEN-F, it looks a little beauty. However I can't say I'm over enamoured by the dial on the front as I would never use it.

I've never handled one nor ever seen one, but after reading that review I was inclined to agree with his reasoning. He does however seem to be in the minority.

Hence this thread to see what owners thought.

I'm also considering the Oly 8mm as an alternative.

Might I ask Phil, do you own a PEN-F?

Phill D 7th May 2018 10:05 AM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
No Dave I don't own a Pen-F. It just seemed too expensive as a backup camera, plus I still have my EM1 mk1 which I think is better and worth a lot less now.

MikeOxon 7th May 2018 10:35 AM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave in Wales (Post 446662)
...................I'm also considering the Oly 8mm as an alternative.............

I think that, if you're looking to spend some money to expand your photo possibilities, then a new lens will do far more than a new body. It depends on the type of photography you do.

A physically small lens might bring you compactness, for street shooting. A fish-eye would open up a new type of subject (and you can always de-fish with software, to widen its scope). And so on...

I agree with you about the 'cheap' 40-150. It's a super lightweight lens with a lot of capability. As someone who started colour photography in the days of ISO25 Kodachrome, I don't understand why some people are so concerned about 'small' apertures, like f/5.6 :eek:

yorky 7th May 2018 11:52 AM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Its a great small camera that takes excellent pictures and all your other lenses without straining your shoulder. I love it.

griffljg 7th May 2018 11:54 AM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phill D (Post 446664)
No Dave I don't own a Pen-F. It just seemed too expensive as a backup camera, plus I still have my EM1 mk1 which I think is better and worth a lot less now.

I am in the same boat and agree with you 100%.

MJ224 7th May 2018 01:00 PM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Is it really small??

Only time I handled one, I though "How Big".........

But I don't own one, and have only touched one once.........*chr

pdk42 7th May 2018 03:06 PM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
Analysed at its componentry level it's hard to justify the Pen F's price. It shares a lot of its internals with the E-M10ii, but it adds the 20Mp sensor and improved IBIS in a body with a significantly improved aesthetic and perceived construction quality. I say "perceived" since I have no particular issues with the E-M10ii, but the Pen does have some very nice industrial design aspects to it and overall it just feels a better and more expensive camera.

The JPEG knob is an interesting addition. If you were into in-camera effects and were happy with OOC jpegs then I guess it would really add to the camera's appeal. For me, I almost never use it since I always shoot raw. However, it is useful to be able to quickly select mono viewfinder mode when you see a scene that has "monochrome" written on it. So long as you set it for raw+JPEG then you can fiddle with the shot afterwards as you wish.

Finally - sometimes a camera is about more than the performance or features - it's about how you connect with it; and in that sense the Pen is great. It makes you want to take it out and photograph things. Of course that's a very personal thing - but for me I think the Pen hits the spot. It's my favourite camera for my sort of photography:

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthre...ight=Happiness

CJJE 7th May 2018 03:56 PM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
I have a Lumix GX7 body to act as a smaller option than my E-M1 MkII. I don't mind swapping between Olympus and Panasonic menus, and it gives me a Panasonic body to pair with my Panasonic lenses should they not play nicely with my Olympus body.

I like the look of the Pen-F and would be tempted by it, but can't justify the extra expense of swapping them over :)

drmarkf 7th May 2018 04:09 PM

Re: Pen-F owners, tell me the truth.
 
It would be really useful if the front knob could be reassigned, maybe to ISO settings.

I've had a play for a day with a friend's Pen-F and I agree the aesthetics are great and it handles well, but the CAF was a disappointment now I'm used to what the 1ii can do (I guess it's about the same as the 5ii for that).


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