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Kiwi Paul 31st July 2011 11:46 AM

Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
I'm contemplating buying the above kit as I really fancy a m4/3 kit now.

Has anyone got any experience or opinions on it. I've read reviews of the camera which are all very good but how about the lenses, are they ok?

I want a view finder so prefer the G3 over the E-P3.

I can add primes later but fancy the 2 kits lenses just to get going, if I'm happy with the G3 and kit lenses I'll probably sell my 4/3 kit and think about buying more m4/3 lenses then.

Paul

Kiwi Paul 31st July 2011 01:17 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
I've reconsidered and are now thinking the G3 and Oly 14-150 lens, anyone see any problems with that setup?

Paul

OlyPaul 31st July 2011 01:58 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woofmix (Post 129129)
I've reconsidered and are now thinking the G3 and Oly 14-150 lens, anyone see any problems with that setup?

Paul

Yes, the G3 does not have IS as it is in the Panasonic lenses and not the body, this means your Oly 14-150 will be unstabalized and at 300mm (600mm) you will have problems hand holding in anything but bright sunlight.

Of course you could take a tripod but that kind of negates the reason for having a light weight kit.:)

Kiwi Paul 31st July 2011 02:02 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
I overlooked that so think I'll just stick with the 14-42, 45-200 setup, are those lenses ok?

Paul

StephenL 31st July 2011 04:51 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
The 14-42, for a basic lens, gives surprisingly good results. The 45-200 can be a bit soft towards the far end, but again, I've had good results with it.
This is with the 14-42 on a GH2:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/5...000064_1-2.jpg

and this is the 45-200 at 200mm:

http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries...h2-1000244.jpg

peak4 31st July 2011 07:13 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woofmix (Post 129129)
I've reconsidered and are now thinking the G3 and Oly 14-150 lens, anyone see any problems with that setup?

Paul

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlyPaul (Post 129130)
Yes, the G3 does not have IS as it is in the Panasonic lenses and not the body, this means your Oly 14-150 will be unstabalized and at 300mm (600mm) you will have problems hand holding in anything but bright sunlight.

Of course you could take a tripod but that kind of negates the reason for having a light weight kit.:)

You could always consider the Panasonic 14-140mm mFT, heavier than the 14-150 Oly, but has IS built in. That with the 20mm as well, for a bright lens, should cover most things.
You could even add the 7-14mm and have most bases sorted apart from long tele stuff.
If you keep an eye out second hand, they do come up at reasonable prices sometimes. Mine did anyway. :)

OK I missed the focus a bit, but hopefully, it shows the potential.

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1...6_Hoverfly.JPG

E-P2, Panasonic 14-140mm @140mm + MCON-35
1/400th @ F8 ISO800 CAF-[T] (about 100% Crop with just a touch of sharpening))

DekHog 31st July 2011 08:03 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
It will be a great kit, but the older 14-45mm Panasonic is the one to go for (would have to be used as no longer manufactured). I can't imagine why they dropped it for a lens with less reach and worse IQ? (not bad IQ, just not as good).

The 14-140mm would also be a good option, and is probably at the limit of size for any of the Panny bodies (the 100-300mm is just ridiculous). That and one of the faster pancakes would be a good setup.

Kiwi Paul 1st August 2011 09:32 AM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
I decided to go for the G3 and Oly 14-150, I fancy a setup with one lens that covers a large focal range, it would have cost 235 more to go for the Pan 14-140 just to get IS and if I went for the E-P3 +VF3 +14-150 it would cost 325 more so decided to put up with not having IS and put the saved money to another pancake lens or something.
Ordered today from SRS so hopefully see it tomorrow of Wed :-)

Paul

DekHog 1st August 2011 01:05 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
Paul - that's a great lens to have, mine is never off the camera. We lived for long enough without IS, so can't see why it's a real necessity all of a sudden.

I'm also a bit dubious about it's true usefulness/effectiveness anyway. My own conclusions are that it gives maybe just over one stop at the long end of the 14-150 - bump the ISO up one stop and there you go; same difference.

The difference in weight/size from your previous kit with all those SHG lenses, etc will be massive, eh? No more pondering if you can be bothered taking it with you is the best part....

Kiwi Paul 1st August 2011 01:15 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
Thanks Derek, I'm looking forward to trying it out.

I'm very keen to get the Panalieca 25mm f1.4 m4/3 lens, it's due out this month, it's a bit pricey at 540 but think I'll go for it, sounds a super lens.

Paul

StephenL 1st August 2011 05:08 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
I can confirm that the Oly 14-150 is a very good lens. Its only drawback as far as I'm concerned is the smallish maximum aperture. I am fully in agreement with Derek about IS - just go back to using sensible photographic procedures regarding hand-holding and shutter speeds. And remeber not to be afraid of high ISOs with the latest Panasonics.

DekHog 1st August 2011 05:15 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
....and just to add, the 14-150mm is just as good wide open as it is stopped down a bit, so no need to think about having to shoot at F8 all the time. :)

Ulfric M Douglas 1st August 2011 05:23 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woofmix (Post 129126)
G3 +14-42, 45-200

Good choice, but at what price?

I'd like that kit but all I really want ... I've got. Doh!
I was walking along taking pictures of faraway sheep and contemplating the 45-200 instead of my excellent 4/3rds 40-150mkI ... not because of the size/weight advantage (?) but because of the focusing speed and the stabilisation.

Let us know how you get on.

Kiwi Paul 3rd August 2011 12:54 PM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
It arrived today so had a brief play at lunch. I like what I see, very compact, light and stylish. Already very easy to navigate the menus, especially with the touch screen. The electronic VF is fine, maybe could do with a tad more resolution but its bright and is nice and big to view. The flip out screen is excellent just like the E series but been a touch screen is even more versatile.
The 14-150 is very compact and good quality and gives an excellent zoom range, it's a bit slow, f4-5.6 but hopefully the high ISO performance will compensate. Focus speed is fast, no issues there and seems accurate too....so far.

So overall my first impressions are really good, I'll buy either the 20mm f1.7 or 25mm f1.4 primes soon and then just see how it goes.

I'll post pics once I've had a chance to get some shots off.

Paul

baldyb 13th August 2011 10:52 AM

Re: Panasonic G3 +14-42, 45-200
 
Just wondering what your ongoing impressions are of the G3 Paul, only I'm seriously considering one at the moment as I like the look of some of the new features.

As a slight aside I don't suppose anyone out there has experience of using the G2 and the G3? The reviews seem a bit mixed in their opinions as to whether it's a worthwhile move up.


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