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Ianf 3rd October 2010 02:42 PM

Too dark
Hi, just tried to take some shots at my daughters gymnastics comp and I cant seem to get any light into the shots, all seem dark, I tried high iso {800 + } wide aperture {3.5}, in manual mode, but nothing would work, never had any trouble like this with 35mm, might sound very basic but any ideas ???,

Great in auto but shutter is too slow to catch the action,.

Nick Temple-Fry 3rd October 2010 03:27 PM

Re: Too dark
Don't know the e-400 and I am intrigued about the comment that it worked in Auto-mode, albeit with too slow shutter speed.

Were you trying to set a high shutter speed in which case I can see why it might not get adequate exposure. I also wonder about the exposure metering, matrix in a lit hall might well make the 'action' seem dark.

I know there is a natural reluctance to show photos in the gallery that haven't worked, but if you have a couple of examples (auto and not auto) with the exif data that may well help us to see what is happenning and offer suggestions.


Ianf 3rd October 2010 03:41 PM

Re: Too dark
Hi, I needed to set the shutter speed to 1/1000 to catch the vaults and springs but would just turn out black, in auto it was fine lightwise but blurred due to the slow shutter,
Should I shoot in raw, ?, sorry if this sounds all naive but I seem to be struggling getting to grips with my DSLR after moving from my OM2n,
Portraits etc have been good, but this is my first attempt at indoor sports and if my wife hadnt taken a point and shoot I would have nothing to record the day.

Nick Temple-Fry 3rd October 2010 04:41 PM

Re: Too dark
Without examples it's difficult to make suggestions.

But if you were shooting with the 14-42 wide open (to get a 3.5 max aperture) then I suspect the camera would have chosen a slow shutter speed (Say 1/25- 1/50), similarly with the 50-150 (Say 1/50-1/100). Going to a shutter speed of 1/1000 will have drastically reduced the light falling on the sensor, probably causing the exposure indicator to flash (if the e-400 does that).

Shooting RAW wouldn't have changed that situation, OK it allows some 'boost' but this is really only useful when exposure is close to correct.

With examples we would be able to suggest some more suitable settings (perhaps). Without them, well we are as much in the dark as your sensor was.



Ianf 3rd October 2010 05:39 PM

Re: Too dark
Hi, thanks for the response but unfortunately I have deleted the dark pics, the light in the viewfinder was flashing -5 all the time, I could not increase the shutter speed without the shot just turning out black,
tried all the prioritys, ie S, A and P and all to no avail,

David Gethin 3rd October 2010 06:41 PM

Re: Too dark

I am afraid that there won't have been anywhere near enough light indoors to shoot at 1/1000.

I have just shot a theatre rehearsal indoors with fluorescent lighting in a room with a ceiling approx. 10' tall and even with ISO at 2000 (I have an E-30) and f/2.8 (50-200mm lens) I was lucky to shoot at 1/125.

These are the situations where a top of the range Nikon with much higher useable ISO and very fast glass are going to be necessary to shoot the speeds you want to.

I assume that flash would not be allowed so as to not distract the gymnasts during their manoeuvres.

The flashing -5 was the camera's light meter telling you that the shutter speed you chose was too fast to get a well exposed photograph.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Ianf 3rd October 2010 06:47 PM

Re: Too dark
Hi, please dont apologise, this is why I use this forum, photographers like yourself are a great help to inexperienced hands, I havnt done much indoors as I usually shot motorsport with 35mm so this is unchartered waters for me,
Again thanks and I will have to try and get a lens with a bigger aperture { 2 } ?

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