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Ian 22nd April 2013 09:58 AM

Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Looking forward to joining host Nigel Atherton (What Digital Camera maagzine) , Richard Sibley (Amateur Photographer magazine), and Andy Westlake (DPReview) this coming Saturday afternoon for a live debate on the evolution of photography. The event is being held by the World Photography Organisation:

http://worldphoto.org/festivals-and-...g-photography/

There is a live webcast but, alas, only viewable by WPO middle and top-tier members. Questions will be taken from a live audience (I understand anyone can purchase tickets to attend) and via Twitter (will post a hash tag once I know what it is!).

If you want to come along (you need a ticket) it's between 16.00 - 17.30 at the Strand Palace Hotel, London.

How about posting questions here too, or simply comments and observations?

Ian

Ian 22nd April 2013 10:02 AM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Hash tag is #PhotoTALK. It would also help if you could tag questions @WorldPhotoOrg too.

Ian

Ian 22nd April 2013 10:38 AM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Is anyone here a member of the World Photography Organisation?

Ian

Graham_of_Rainham 22nd April 2013 10:59 AM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Digital Technology has provided a vastly superior capability for experimental photography. I even use a digital camera to setup shots using a Bellows Macro stage then swap bodies to produce film transparencies. I can use digital in much the same way as I did Polaroid.

The ability to teach photography using digital cameras, is so much easier. Assessment of changes from camera setting, composition, etc., provided by digital technology, especially live view streaming is an exceptional facility.

Have fun Ian.

Zuiko 22nd April 2013 06:52 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
It's such a vast and diverse subject it's hard to know where to start. It would probably be easier if following the debate live, to see which way it turns. I suppose the big question is what next? What will be the next big thing, the next giant leap forward?

Graham_of_Rainham 23rd April 2013 01:39 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuiko (Post 225415)
It's such a vast and diverse subject it's hard to know where to start.

As you often say "it's all about the light"... The rapid growth in LED technology may well provide a viable alternative to an increased range of lighting requirements that currently are the preserve of flash systems.

One thing I have often thought, has been overlooked is the function of a GN Lens. Often the simple adjustment of the aperture for different focal distances is easier to make than adjustments to power settings on the lighting. Yet this very simple function is, to my knowledge, not featured on modern cameras.

I often feel that manufacturers dictate the way we use a camera by virtue of the technology newly introduced, at the expence of features that are perhaps considered "Manual". One of my favorite metering systems was the "Multi-Spot" system (last seen on the Olympus C-8080WZ). It provided for excellent control of mixed and balanced lighting with the very simple sampling for lighting ratios, etc..

Simple "connectivity" enhancements should include WiFi links to control systems that turn off/on studio lights when the camera enters sleep mode and is then reactivated.

Of course, if you actually turn the camera off then the "Smart-kettle" is automatically switched on...:D

OM USer 23rd April 2013 04:42 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
I guessing the most obvious question is whether the panel thinks there will be a decent implementation of on-chip hybrid PDAF/CDAF, perhaps with hundreds of focus points to choose from and what they see as the next big thing in focus technology (laser sighting?)

Next up is proper off the film (well, off the sensor) real time flash control, maybe with a few dedicated pixels on the sensor used for the purpose so the whole sensor does not have to be read (a slow operation).

pdk42 23rd April 2013 05:33 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Sounds an interesting event. I'll certainly drop by.

Ian 23rd April 2013 06:51 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Some good feedback there - keep it coming! :)

Ian

Graham_of_Rainham 24th April 2013 10:43 AM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
More and more often, I find myself using the cameras in either "Intelligent Auto" or Fully Manual. Has P, A & S had its day *???

Maybe the next level of "i" in iAuto could be "intuitive" where the camera responds to user input and adjust settings accordingly. By the user altering shutter speeds or detecting fast movement the camera in iAuto mode could intuitively maintain a set shutter speed and adjust aperture/ISO to achieve optimum results. Equally if the user was adjusting the aperture, the shutter/ISO would be controlled.

Some degree of "intelligent" control of DoF could be achieved by providing "spot focus" selection, where a near and far point having been selected by the user would be used to control the aperture and the optimum focus distance to optimise results.

So much of this is what we did (intuitively) for years as "old School" photographers and perhaps we need to remind ourselves to do so having fallen into the clutches of the all pervasive "I" ;)

*chr

Dan in NC 24th April 2013 12:29 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Digital photography has enabled me to once again go from capture to print (via the "digital darkroom") and be able to do it myself with satisfying results. What really frustrated me about film photography during the 1990s was simply that I did not have access to a darkroom and had to rely on photo labs for my prints.

Ian 24th April 2013 01:52 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
And photo labs were very variable in my experience, too.

Ian

OM USer 24th April 2013 02:36 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham_of_Rainham (Post 225709)
Maybe the next level of "i" in iAuto could be "intuitive" where the camera responds to user input and adjust settings accordingly.

How about detecting the camera being panned, switching to a higher shutter speed, tracking some moving edge of the central target (a variant of CDAF focus technology perhaps), and combining the latter with IBIS to deliberately move the sensor at the same speed as the object being tracked at the moment of shutter release to ensure a crisp sharp image rather than a motion blur.

OM USer 24th April 2013 06:31 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
Here is another one. I know some of these are currently possible but will these features be mainstream and with a user friendly UI rather than a clunky add on...
Full live real time connection from camera to connected device for:
live view
full camera operations including focus, aperture, shutter speed, iso, touch focus!, etc
automated backup of each image as it is taken
setting camera options, use of menu etc
storing, naming, and recall of named option sets,
automated bracketing, stacking, intervalometer
webcam broadcast option (using attached camera)

Graham_of_Rainham 24th April 2013 10:12 PM

Re: Live debate on the evolution of photography
 
How long before we see variable focal length liquid lenses in phone and micro compact cameras *???


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