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Graham_of_Rainham 28th October 2017 09:42 PM

Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
I'm rapidly losing patience with Microsoft! Far more rapidly than the installation of the Windows 10, version 1709

It started two day and ago and has still not finished...:mad:

Ross the fiddler 29th October 2017 06:49 AM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
The moral of that story, should not have gone to Windows 10. :rolleyes:
Thankfully I have stayed with Win7. *ohwell

Anyhow, sorry you're having those problems. *yes

wornish 29th October 2017 07:07 AM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham_of_Rainham (Post 430962)
I'm rapidly losing patience with Microsoft! Far more rapidly than the installation of the Windows 10, version 1709

It started two day and ago and has still not finished...:mad:


It took about 2 hours on my laptop I thought that was long. Do you have a slow internet connection or perhaps your disk is nearly full.

Graham_of_Rainham 29th October 2017 08:18 AM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
It's an I3 laptop with only a quarter of the disc used.

Loads of reports on line of the same thing happens on all sorts of machines.

Fortunately I have an IPad, so I am just letting it get on with it....... *zzz

pdk42 29th October 2017 09:07 AM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
The Microsoft update service (wsauserv) has a habit of running forever and in the process chewing up lots of CPU time. I really can't for the life of me understand what it's doing when it gets into this mess. It's not downloading anything or installing anything - just grinding through something on your PC to figure out what to do. In the past I've fixed it by clearing down the Windows software distribution database.

I'd check if that's the case with you Graham and if it is to try this from the command line:

net stop wuauserv

cd %systemroot%

ren SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old

net start wuauserv

That will re-initialise the update service back to a clean position.

If you can't stop wsauserv then it might be because your AV software is preventing it. If so, temporarily disable that.

Jim Ford 29th October 2017 11:09 AM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
God - how I hate the Fischer Price Windows system!

I only use it for Photoshop and switch the W10 computer on when I need to process photos. I always do so with a heavy heart, and the last time felt physically sick when I did.

It's like dealing with a madman - constant popups asking me what I want to do with files, unprompted windows opening! W7 was fairly tolerable, but when I 'upgraded' to W10, the system splattered every icon it could find across the desktop, filling the screen. I'm thoroughly sick of it!

It's really refreshing to get back to a sane OS like Linux!

Jim

KeithL 29th October 2017 11:39 AM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
I got so fed up with Windows that I changed to Mac. I haven't regretted it for a second! I can't say that Macs are perfect (nothing is) but at least I've forgotten some of the swear words I used to use regularly when my Windows computer was on! *chr

Invicta 29th October 2017 01:23 PM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
To quote Microsoft:

Quote:

One of the most reliable and convenient ways is to use the ISO file
Worth trying the ISO file approach as this separates the network download from the actual installation; details at:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...xd.PyQdmSeMg)()

Invicta 29th October 2017 05:50 PM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnheatingman (Post 431041)
Unless I'm missing something, that link refers to downloading the complete version of Win 10 using an ISO file, for users with earlier systems, and not just the Fall Update for users having an up-to-date version of Win 10. It is the new Win10 Fall Feature Update recently released by Microsoft that is under discussion and found to be causing problems.

Using the ISO file indicated in the link would re-install Win10 completely and erase all existing files and data. Unless as stated, I'm mistaken.

John

Hi John have a read of the text e.g.

Quote:

The Windows 10 Fall Creators Update is the latest revision of Microsoft's desktop operating system. The previous version, called the Creators Update was launched in April 2017. Users running previous versions of Windows 10 will be able to upgrade to the latest revision multiple ways. One of the most reliable and convenient ways is to use the ISO file.

Invicta 29th October 2017 06:09 PM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnheatingman (Post 431079)
I have read the text, all of it, several times :) Nowhere have I read anything that tells me using the suggested Win 10 ISO file will not re-install Win 10.

I used the same Win 10 ISO file to install Win 10 on the laptop, i'm currently using. Yes it will install the latest updates but as far as I know it is a complete system re-install with full data deletion. Hence the advice to backup and create a copy image before using it.

John

Did you see the part

Quote:

Please note, you have the option of choosing what you would like to keep, which includes personal files, apps and settings.
If you are uncomfortable doing that way then you can do it via update.

pdk42 29th October 2017 06:26 PM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Ford (Post 431007)
God - how I hate the Fischer Price Windows system!

I only use it for Photoshop and switch the W10 computer on when I need to process photos. I always do so with a heavy heart, and the last time felt physically sick when I did.

It's like dealing with a madman - constant popups asking me what I want to do with files, unprompted windows opening! W7 was fairly tolerable, but when I 'upgraded' to W10, the system splattered every icon it could find across the desktop, filling the screen. I'm thoroughly sick of it!

It's really refreshing to get back to a sane OS like Linux!

Jim

Windows 10 now has a "Windows Sub-system for Linux". It's a compatibility mode that allows Linux command-line tools to run without the need for a virtual machine to be running (so instant start up etc). It's quite a neat feature if you want to use Linux command-line tools within the Windows environment. It's a bit like Cygwin, but somewhat more native and better integrated.

Jim Ford 29th October 2017 06:42 PM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pdk42 (Post 431085)
Windows 10 now has a "Windows Sub-system for Linux". It's a compatibility mode that allows Linux command-line tools to run without the need for a virtual machine to be running (so instant start up etc). It's quite a neat feature if you want to use Linux command-line tools within the Windows environment. It's a bit like Cygwin, but somewhat more native and better integrated.

Yeahbut - it still needs firing up the execrable W10 system!

(I have used Cygwin, but can't really see the point. I can always go to my Linux laptop and do the job properly.)

Jim

Graham_of_Rainham 29th October 2017 09:15 PM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
After three days of "preparing to update", I've just got a new picture of a lake and messages saying how good this is going to be... *zzz

Thanks Paul for the tip on renaming the update history file, I think that may have helped a bit.

*chr*chr

Graham_of_Rainham 29th October 2017 09:34 PM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnheatingman (Post 431101)
Graham, have you tried doing the update manually, turning off Win Defender and any Virus software, then clicking on Check For Updates in the Win Update Feature ? It will hopefully list the Fall Feature Update with the option to download it. Mine worked perfectly after the 3rd download attempt.

If the update has failed to download correctly it may be stuck in a loop. I would be tempted to stop it and try manually as above.

John

That's what I had to do, as I was one of the many that suffered the 66% freeze.

I doubt that you can see the difference, but this is my first posting using the new W10 system... :D

Barr1e 29th October 2017 09:39 PM

Re: Windows 10 - Fall feature update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham_of_Rainham (Post 431102)
I doubt that you can see the difference, but this is my first posting using the new W10 system... :D

Me too. ;)


Regards. Barr1e


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