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  • #16
    Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

    Just found my thread from June 2011.

    http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14645

    I've been two years in the making.
    Thanks
    Tim

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/33153464@N07/

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    • #17
      Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

      Great to see the "before" and "after" of your macro journey Tim.

      I always enjoy your posts and am very envious of most of your shots.

      Thanks for sharing the knowledge and skills you have obtained through hard work and perseverence.

      Regards.
      Peter

      she looked at me and said "It's official. I hate your camera. It's just so amazing and perfect I want one!"

      E-M10 MK II, E-M5, E-PL1, E-PM2, mZ 12-50, mZ 14-42mm EZ, mZ 17mm f 1.8, mZ 25mm f1.8, mZ 45mm f1.8, mZ 75-300mm II.
      OM1n, OM 50mm f1.8.
      Oly Viewer3, Dxo Pro 11. FastStone.

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      • #18
        Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

        Tim
        I hope you don't mind me adding to this.

        Here is camera with 35mm f3.5 attached and focused at a piece card at 1:1 the diffuser is homemade from a plastic milk bottle. The 35 mm is very good lens but if using one I suggest for insect using at 1:2 or lower magnification mostly.


        35 mm Macro and milk bottle diffuser by alf.branch, on Flickr

        this was taken with this set up.


        Hover fly by alf.branch, on Flickr
        OMD E-M1 OMD E-M5II MMF3 12-40 pro 12-50 EZ 14-42 EZ 9-18 f4.0 -5.6 40 -150f4-f5.6 R 60mm f2.8 macro Sigma 105 f2.8 macro Holga 60mm plastic Holga pinhole lens lens and a XZ-1 Olympus - 35 SP Trip 35 Pen EEs OM2sp

        I nice view does not mean a good photograph. My FLickr

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        • #19
          Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

          I now have a sigma 105mm which is great and has a better working distance as shown by this set up with the card set at 1:1 focus.
          I have mostly used the previously show milk bottle diffuser but I am working on a pringle tube snood/diffuser to soften the light.

          My XZ-1 missed the focus well I did I suppose.


          105 mm and pringle diffuser by alf.branch, on Flickr

          This was with the 105mm and milk bottle diffuser I am still working on the pringle tube.


          Fly by alf.branch, on Flickr
          OMD E-M1 OMD E-M5II MMF3 12-40 pro 12-50 EZ 14-42 EZ 9-18 f4.0 -5.6 40 -150f4-f5.6 R 60mm f2.8 macro Sigma 105 f2.8 macro Holga 60mm plastic Holga pinhole lens lens and a XZ-1 Olympus - 35 SP Trip 35 Pen EEs OM2sp

          I nice view does not mean a good photograph. My FLickr

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          • #20
            Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

            Very informative, great photos, you have shown me what these lenses can thanks.

            Ian

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            • #21
              Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

              That last fly is amazing, great shot.
              http://www.flickr.com/photos/flip_photo_flickr/

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              • #22
                Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                Great tips and advise. I have just got a 35mm lens and have had it out on a windy day!! There was a hell of a lot of deleting. Thanks for sharing your fantastic shots and your knowledge.
                Conor.
                Ever wondered what happens the dark when the light is switched on?

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                • #23
                  Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                  Love the shot of the fly, but what's happening with the focus? That doesn't look like normal DoF blurring....
                  Steve

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                  • #24
                    Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                    I am glad my posts are helping some.

                    Originally posted by raichea View Post
                    Love the shot of the fly, but what's happening with the focus? That doesn't look like normal DoF blurring....
                    Please explain what you expect at close to 1:1 with this lens. The fly is about 10mm long shot at f11 1/180th sec with the flash rig shown. In my experience the few mm of Dof shown is all that was available.

                    Also what do you think I have done to the image?

                    Have you used a Sigma 105 f2.8 on a 4/3 DSLR?
                    OMD E-M1 OMD E-M5II MMF3 12-40 pro 12-50 EZ 14-42 EZ 9-18 f4.0 -5.6 40 -150f4-f5.6 R 60mm f2.8 macro Sigma 105 f2.8 macro Holga 60mm plastic Holga pinhole lens lens and a XZ-1 Olympus - 35 SP Trip 35 Pen EEs OM2sp

                    I nice view does not mean a good photograph. My FLickr

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                    • #25
                      Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                      Originally posted by alfbranch View Post
                      Please explain what you expect at close to 1:1 with this lens. The fly is about 10mm long shot at f11 1/180th sec with the flash rig shown. In my experience the few mm of Dof shown is all that was available.

                      Also what do you think I have done to the image?

                      Have you used a Sigma 105 f2.8 on a 4/3 DSLR?
                      I expect shallow DoF, of course, but parallel to the plane of the sensor. In the fly picture, the in focus region bends and comes directly towards the camera.

                      No idea... if it weren't a macro shot, I'd probably assume the blurring had been done in post. As it is, I'm curious, hence the question.

                      Yes...I have a 105.
                      Steve

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                      • #26
                        Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                        Originally posted by raichea View Post
                        I expect shallow DoF, of course, but parallel to the plane of the sensor. In the fly picture, the in focus region bends and comes directly towards the camera.

                        No idea... if it weren't a macro shot, I'd probably assume the blurring had been done in post. As it is, I'm curious, hence the question.

                        Yes...I have a 105.
                        The in focus area is paralell to the camera as normal.

                        You eyes/brain has not worked out what it is seeing. The fly is stood on a 6X1 inch plank of wood on the edge (a fence). What you perceive as a bend in the area of focus is the tranistion from horizontal to vertical planes of the plank. The flies front feet are on a horizontal plane its back feet are on the vertical plane.

                        Techically the shot needs a slight CW rotation.
                        OMD E-M1 OMD E-M5II MMF3 12-40 pro 12-50 EZ 14-42 EZ 9-18 f4.0 -5.6 40 -150f4-f5.6 R 60mm f2.8 macro Sigma 105 f2.8 macro Holga 60mm plastic Holga pinhole lens lens and a XZ-1 Olympus - 35 SP Trip 35 Pen EEs OM2sp

                        I nice view does not mean a good photograph. My FLickr

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                        • #27
                          Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                          Of course I don't mind images or comments being added.

                          Raichea, the DOF isn't coming towards the camera it is going down parallel to the lens. It also goes across to the right as it reaches the fly. I look at this and assume lens is on the corner of a 90 degree angle looking along the edge where top and side meet.

                          Now you have described it I see what you mean but I hadn't noticed before. The way you have seen the image I am assuming the bottom right of the picture looks very strange?

                          I wonder how many people visualise macro in different ways? My favourite Macro shot is of a small butterfly head on, when I show it to people they just shrug and say it's not in focus it's all blurry.

                          Skipper Tee Lake portrait 22072013 2 by Tim J Preston, on Flickr

                          Because the DOF is so narrow some people can't see what they should be looking at, but when shown they get it. On the shot above I have had comments like why couldn't you get the wings right? Why have you made it blurry?
                          Thanks
                          Tim

                          http://www.flickr.com/photos/33153464@N07/

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                          • #28
                            Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                            Originally posted by alfbranch View Post
                            You eyes/brain has not worked out what it is seeing. The fly is stood on a 6X1 inch plank of wood on the edge (a fence). What you perceive as a bend in the area of focus is the tranistion from horizontal to vertical planes of the plank. The flies front feet are on a horizontal plane its back feet are on the vertical plane.
                            Crumbs... I just didn't see that at all... the wood just looked like a single plane to me, which is why I thought it looked odd. Now you've described it, it makes sense... thanks.

                            Originally posted by timmypreston View Post
                            Of course I don't mind images or comments being added.

                            Raichea, the DOF isn't coming towards the camera it is going down parallel to the lens. It also goes across to the right as it reaches the fly. I look at this and assume lens is on the corner of a 90 degree angle looking along the edge where top and side meet.

                            Now you have described it I see what you mean but I hadn't noticed before. The way you have seen the image I am assuming the bottom right of the picture looks very strange?

                            I wonder how many people visualise macro in different ways? My favourite Macro shot is of a small butterfly head on, when I show it to people they just shrug and say it's not in focus it's all blurry.

                            Because the DOF is so narrow some people can't see what they should be looking at, but when shown they get it. On the shot above I have had comments like why couldn't you get the wings right? Why have you made it blurry?
                            Thanks to you, too, Tim. I must look at more macro shots to avoid that kind of confusion in future.

                            I guess comments such as those you describe should be expected from those who aren't familiar with the optical limitations on focus.

                            Steve.
                            Steve

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                            • #29
                              Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                              Here is my E-M1 with the Sigma 105 and Nissin Di466 flash and my latest diffuser for closer than 1:1 work with my Raynox 250

                              EM1 sigma 105 Mk11 by alf.branch, on Flickr
                              OMD E-M1 OMD E-M5II MMF3 12-40 pro 12-50 EZ 14-42 EZ 9-18 f4.0 -5.6 40 -150f4-f5.6 R 60mm f2.8 macro Sigma 105 f2.8 macro Holga 60mm plastic Holga pinhole lens lens and a XZ-1 Olympus - 35 SP Trip 35 Pen EEs OM2sp

                              I nice view does not mean a good photograph. My FLickr

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                              • #30
                                Re: Macro photography using the 70-300 with EC14 and 35mm

                                Here is my lateet set up
                                Note this only on the tripod for the purposes of shooting the rig as its never used on a tripod.


                                My Olympus OMD E-M1 with 3 m4/3 Kooka tubes a MMF3 adapterand 4/3 Sigma 105 f 2.8 lens and Raynox M-250 Nissin Di466 flash with homemade diffuser.


                                Macro-rig by alf.branch, on Flickr


                                Macro-rig-2 by alf.branch, on Flickr




                                I need more diffusion I think


                                Here is a test shot with this full frame


                                105-mag-test-tubes&R by alf.branch, on Flickr
                                OMD E-M1 OMD E-M5II MMF3 12-40 pro 12-50 EZ 14-42 EZ 9-18 f4.0 -5.6 40 -150f4-f5.6 R 60mm f2.8 macro Sigma 105 f2.8 macro Holga 60mm plastic Holga pinhole lens lens and a XZ-1 Olympus - 35 SP Trip 35 Pen EEs OM2sp

                                I nice view does not mean a good photograph. My FLickr

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