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  • #16
    Re: Want to try Macro photography?

    That's great Pete, very helpful. I'm glad my beginners initial impression weren't too far off. I've seen some of your fantastic close ups and I've noticed you rave about your 50mm f2 and that you use your 1.4x on many of them, what does that do to your WD? give you the same kind of room as the Tamron 90? I have a 1.4x converter already I use with my SWDs so it could give me a way to go.
    Michael.
    E-P3, 14-42, VF-3

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    • #17
      Re: Want to try Macro photography?

      Originally posted by michaelavis View Post
      That's great Pete, very helpful. I'm glad my beginners initial impression weren't too far off. I've seen some of your fantastic close ups and I've noticed you rave about your 50mm f2 and that you use your 1.4x on many of them, what does that do to your WD? give you the same kind of room as the Tamron 90? I have a 1.4x converter already I use with my SWDs so it could give me a way to go.

      Alas, I don't have a 1.4x of any sort, but I gather they are very good. The combination of the ZD50 and the 1.4 should still have lots of image quality and you might then be working at 9 inches or so, assuming you don't want the maximum magnification..

      In fact the combination may prove so sharp that you could get extra magnification simply by cropping the image, providing you have avoided camera shake - however that's another matter

      Pete
      Look, I'm an old man. I shouldn't be expected to put up with this.


      Pete's photoblog Misleading the public since 2010.

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      • #18
        Re: Want to try Macro photography?

        Originally posted by snaarman View Post
        Alas, I don't have a 1.4x of any sort, but I gather they are very good. The combination of the ZD50 and the 1.4 should still have lots of image quality and you might then be working at 9 inches or so, assuming you don't want the maximum magnification..

        In fact the combination may prove so sharp that you could get extra magnification simply by cropping the image, providing you have avoided camera shake - however that's another matter

        Pete
        Sorry, about that, its Andym who's uses an 50 with a 1.4x, its your ID photos that fooled me, you have to admit there's a passing resemblance
        I'll ask him.
        Michael.
        E-P3, 14-42, VF-3

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        • #19
          Re: Want to try Macro photography?

          WARNING! Some boring macro test shots. This is an old shutter mechanism with fixed lighting. Shot on a tripod with mirror up so we can concentrate on how close up lenses perform compared to a couple of Macro lenses. Manual focus done using magnified live view where needed.

          The close up lenses are : A pair of pro coated Fuji items screwed together to form a single stronger close up lens. A sigma Achromat close up lens. I tested the lenses wide upen then stopped down 1 or 2 stops.

          First: Tamron 135mm close focus legacy lens at f2.5 and f5.6. Fuji at the top, Sigma at the bottom



          Rather disappointing result wide open, worse than I had expected. Quite usable at f5.6. However I was surprised the old Fuji optics come this close to the modern Sigma adapter.

          Now we have the Tamron 200mm close focus lens at f3.5 and f5.6. Again Fuji at the top, Sigma at the bottom.



          In this case the result is better than expected. Quite a long working distance (about 1/2 meter) and very difficult to handle off a tripod.

          Now the 40-150 kit zoom at the long end, f5.6 and f8. Again Fuji at the top, Sigma at the bottom.



          This shows that the Olympus kit lenses are pretty good really. I know its only f5.6 wide open, but the results are ok really.

          Now the Tamron SP90 macro, no extra lenses on this one. f2.5 and f5.6



          Nice and sharp - just slightly better stopped down.

          Finally the Zuiko digital 50mm macro at f2.0 and f5.6



          Ouch. That lens is sharp, even wide open. Very close working distance however (I wonder if that is why the front element is concave )

          Pete
          Look, I'm an old man. I shouldn't be expected to put up with this.


          Pete's photoblog Misleading the public since 2010.

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          • #20
            Re: Want to try Macro photography?

            Originally posted by snaarman View Post
            WARNING! Some boring macro test shots. This is an old shutter mechanism with fixed lighting. Shot on a tripod with mirror up so we can concentrate on how close up lenses perform compared to a couple of Macro lenses. Manual focus done using magnified live view where needed.

            The close up lenses are : A pair of pro coated Fuji items screwed together to form a single stronger close up lens. A sigma Achromat close up lens. I tested the lenses wide upen then stopped down 1 or 2 stops.

            First: Tamron 135mm close focus legacy lens at f2.5 and f5.6. Fuji at the top, Sigma at the bottom



            Rather disappointing result wide open, worse than I had expected. Quite usable at f5.6. However I was surprised the old Fuji optics come this close to the modern Sigma adapter.

            Now we have the Tamron 200mm close focus lens at f3.5 and f5.6. Again Fuji at the top, Sigma at the bottom.



            In this case the result is better than expected. Quite a long working distance (about 1/2 meter) and very difficult to handle off a tripod.

            Now the 40-150 kit zoom at the long end, f5.6 and f8. Again Fuji at the top, Sigma at the bottom.



            This shows that the Olympus kit lenses are pretty good really. I know its only f5.6 wide open, but the results are ok really.

            Now the Tamron SP90 macro, no extra lenses on this one. f2.5 and f5.6



            Nice and sharp - just slightly better stopped down.

            Finally the Zuiko digital 50mm macro at f2.0 and f5.6



            Ouch. That lens is sharp, even wide open. Very close working distance however (I wonder if that is why the front element is concave )

            Pete
            Brilliant, really helpul. I wonder how the Sigma 105 or 150 macros would have done, similar to the Tamron I guess.
            Michael.
            E-P3, 14-42, VF-3

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            • #21
              Re: Want to try Macro photography?

              Well done Pete. These are very good comparison shots and should help others.
              Peter
              Best Regards

              PeterD

              www.imageinuk.com/

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              • #22
                Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                Hi there, I'm keen on macro work and also only have zoom lenses which are 14-54 & 50-200 would this work with either of these, regards John

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                • #23
                  Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                  Hi John,

                  here is an example with 14-54 at post #10.

                  For me, it's not realy a Macro, just as close as possible

                  The 50-200 works good in combination with the EX-25.

                  If you only want to try, look for a used ZD 35 Macro.

                  Regards
                  Rudolf

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                  • #24
                    Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                    You can't go wrong with the 35mm Macro lens. I've seen them go in the for sale section for £85.

                    These were taken with an E420 and the 35mm. A combination that can be purchased for less than £200. (Body and Lens)


                    Scorpion Fly Female Tee Lake Meadow 070713 by Tim J Preston, on Flickr


                    Lacewing Chysopa Perla by Tim J Preston, on Flickr
                    Thanks
                    Tim

                    http://www.flickr.com/photos/33153464@N07/

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                    • #25
                      Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                      i have the e520 and the 35mm macro.need to take time to give it a go

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                      • #26
                        Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                        Great info, thanks!

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                        • #27
                          Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                          I suggest that, rather than making all your own mistakes, browse some specialist websites, in particular extreme macro dot com, also photomacrography dot net, holy macro digital grin and FM forums macro world.

                          Harold
                          The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                            Have a look HERE too
                            OMD E-M1 OMD E-M5II MMF3 12-40 pro 12-50 EZ 14-42 EZ 9-18 f4.0 -5.6 40 -150f4-f5.6 R 60mm f2.8 macro Sigma 105 f2.8 macro Holga 60mm plastic Holga pinhole lens lens and a XZ-1 Olympus - 35 SP Trip 35 Pen EEs OM2sp

                            I nice view does not mean a good photograph. My FLickr

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                            • #29
                              Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                              Bought a TG-4 a few years ago, it has an upto x11, x22 and x44 magnification, flash only works in x11, but not sure why.

                              https://steveliddle.smugmug.com/Macr...ug04/i-dn7QfDv is some examples
                              Dumped flickr as they are limiting it to 1000 photos unless you go pro and still limit the photos once you have paid

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                              • #30
                                Re: Want to try Macro photography?

                                Have jus noticed this thread and thought to add what might prove to be an alternative look on how to achieve macro / extreme macro results.

                                Reverse lens - extreme macro - on the cheap.

                                I used this technique many years ago ( film ) and, prior to joining the forum 2009, Olympus 4/3 . Unfortunately, that forum is no longer in existence.

                                Although Reverse lens - extreme macro has some drawbacks, namely manual focus, aperture control etc., it does have one advantage should you decide to dive in, that costs can be minimal.

                                All that is needed is a reversing lens ring(s) to suit the already owned various camera systems / lens to be used. In many cases different makes can be interchanged via the rings.

                                If interested, here are a few links to show what can be achieved... on the cheap.

                                http://extreme-macro.co.uk/reversed-lens-techniques/

                                https://photographylife.com/reverse-...ro-photography

                                https://petapixel.com/2015/05/01/sho...reversed-lens/

                                Micro 4/3 https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/Micro-Four-.../bn_7027796469


                                Hope it proves useful?
                                It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

                                Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

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