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    Truth be told, we are running an old version of vBulletin and we are long overdue for modernisation. Benefits should include a much better experience for mobile and tablet users, better integration with social media services like Facebook, a more slick user interface, some bug fixes, better private messaging (PMs) and better security plus a whole lot more.

    Therefore I am no planning a period of development of the forum installations on all my sites and I will be updating each one, one at a time. The e-group is the busiest site so it will be the last to be updates as by then we should be more experienced with the upgrade processes.

    During the upgrade there will be inevitable disruption and some temporary loss of features and functionality because we run a highly customised forum here and the customisations need to be re-applied once the core forum us up and running in its vanilla form.

    I will do my best to preserve earned attributes like Likes and Thanks, but I can't yet guarantee this. Posting stats will be preserved, though, as they are part of the core forum database.

    If there are any forum features you have seen elsewhere and you would like to see introduced here, please let me know.

    Thanks,

    Ian
    Founder and editor of:
    Olympus UK E-System User Group (http://e-group.uk.net)
    Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com)
    Digital Photography Now (http://dpnow.com)
    Olympus camera, lens, and accessory hire (http://e-group.uk.net/hire)

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    Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

    Bravo! That is a massive undertaking. As a tablet user I am delighted to hear of the upgrade. Very best of luck
    Gary.

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    • #3
      Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

      Ian,

      This forum is provided as free to the users, should we be having a whip round to assist with the inevitable costs incurred?

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        Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

        Originally posted by Petanque View Post
        Bravo! That is a massive undertaking. As a tablet user I am delighted to hear of the upgrade. Very best of luck
        Gary.
        In addition to the forum being available with Tapatalk, I have found that Firefox on the iPad handles the forum better than Safari.

        Graham

        We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...

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        • #5
          Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

          Thanks for the heads up and for all the work you and your volunteers do in the background. Hope to see you at the Photography Show in Birmingham; there is a group meet up on Monday 21 st final details to be sorted. Ed
          Ed

          What if the Hokey Cokey is what its all about?

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          • #6
            Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

            Originally posted by Walti View Post
            Ian,

            This forum is provided as free to the users, should we be having a whip round to assist with the inevitable costs incurred?
            That's a nice thought

            We are partially funded but I may well explore the possibility of a voluntary donation facility.

            Ian
            Founder and editor of:
            Olympus UK E-System User Group (http://e-group.uk.net)
            Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com)
            Digital Photography Now (http://dpnow.com)
            Olympus camera, lens, and accessory hire (http://e-group.uk.net/hire)

            Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
            Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
            Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
            NEW: My personal BLOG ianburley.com
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            • #7
              Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

              Originally posted by Wee man View Post
              Thanks for the heads up and for all the work you and your volunteers do in the background. Hope to see you at the Photography Show in Birmingham; there is a group meet up on Monday 21 st final details to be sorted. Ed
              Thanks Ed, I am certainly planning to be at the show. I am always there on Day 1 and sometimes on other days.

              Ian
              Founder and editor of:
              Olympus UK E-System User Group (http://e-group.uk.net)
              Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com)
              Digital Photography Now (http://dpnow.com)
              Olympus camera, lens, and accessory hire (http://e-group.uk.net/hire)

              Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
              Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
              Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
              NEW: My personal BLOG ianburley.com
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              • #8
                Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

                Sounds like someone will be busy for a while! All the best and good to hear that the e-group forum will hopefully benefit from others experiences of the changeover!!
                Will there be any changes or (dare I say it) improvements to the way that we can upload photos onto our posts in a more direct way?
                Hope it all goes well with the updates - a lot of work goes unseen into this site and it is appreciated - cheers
                Chris
                If I'm out I'm JustSwanningAround
                or more often at www.facebook.com/JustSwanningAround

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                • #9
                  Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

                  We don't say it often enough, but we're all enormously grateful for all the hard work you and the moderators have done keeping everything here running so well. Some form of non-intrusive donation system would be good.
                  Regards,
                  Mark

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                  Assorted legacy lenses, plus a Fuji X70 & a Sony A7S.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

                    I echo all the thanks above, the forum is such a pleasure to use, Ian.

                    If you are planning new ideas, would it be possible to link the " Thanks " and " " Like " buttons to the " Read " button on the left hand column? Thus letting us know we have contributed to that thread?
                    The picture tells the story, great when you have a bad memory.DW.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

                      Originally posted by catkins View Post
                      Sounds like someone will be busy for a while! All the best and good to hear that the e-group forum will hopefully benefit from others experiences of the changeover!!
                      Will there be any changes or (dare I say it) improvements to the way that we can upload photos onto our posts in a more direct way?
                      Hope it all goes well with the updates - a lot of work goes unseen into this site and it is appreciated - cheers
                      Chris
                      Basically we are updating to vBulletin Connect 5. This does have improved in-post photo capabilities. We do encourage people to use our own gallery area of course as photos only posted in the forum are likely to be seen only briefly while in the gallery they remain more accessible for longer. But there does have to be a better balance and I can't expect everyone to use the gallery all of the time so that is one aim of the upgrade.

                      Ian
                      Founder and editor of:
                      Olympus UK E-System User Group (http://e-group.uk.net)
                      Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com)
                      Digital Photography Now (http://dpnow.com)
                      Olympus camera, lens, and accessory hire (http://e-group.uk.net/hire)

                      Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
                      Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
                      Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
                      NEW: My personal BLOG ianburley.com
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                      • #12
                        Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

                        Originally posted by Ian View Post
                        Basically we are updating to vBulletin Connect 5. This does have improved in-post photo capabilities. We do encourage people to use our own gallery area of course as photos only posted in the forum are likely to be seen only briefly while in the gallery they remain more accessible for longer. But there does have to be a better balance and I can't expect everyone to use the gallery all of the time so that is one aim of the upgrade.

                        Ian
                        Thanks for the update - I'm pleased to hear about the improvement to in-post photo uploads as sometimes speed and simplicity of posting encourages more posts, but agree re gallery and hopefully that too will be an important part of us sharing, viewing, commenting on and even learning from each others great photos. So a big from me for this!
                        Chris
                        If I'm out I'm JustSwanningAround
                        or more often at www.facebook.com/JustSwanningAround

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                          Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

                          Originally posted by Ian View Post
                          Basically we are updating to vBulletin Connect 5. This does have improved in-post photo capabilities. We do encourage people to use our own gallery area of course as photos only posted in the forum are likely to be seen only briefly while in the gallery they remain more accessible for longer. But there does have to be a better balance and I can't expect everyone to use the gallery all of the time so that is one aim of the upgrade.

                          Ian
                          I am a member of another forum (also using vbulletin) and in post photo uploads there are always criticised as lacking sharpness. I would hope that this has been improved on the latest release. Incidentally there are some occasions where a post will have little relevance outside the thread to which it refers and in-post capability would be very suitable for these.

                          Incidentally what is the forum policy on posting into this gallery but linking into another forum? I have always assumed that would be bad manners and useing your bandwidth needlessly but as a result my Flickr account has got rather muddled!
                          Roger

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                            Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

                            Originally posted by Ian View Post
                            Basically we are updating to vBulletin Connect 5. This does have improved in-post photo capabilities. We do encourage people to use our own gallery area of course as photos only posted in the forum are likely to be seen only briefly while in the gallery they remain more accessible for longer. But there does have to be a better balance and I can't expect everyone to use the gallery all of the time so that is one aim of the upgrade.

                            Ian
                            NO NO NO NO NO
                            Have I got your attention; VB 5 has KILLED many forums including a photography one I was on.

                            I'm not right up with forum bases so I have to ask about how different is vB5 and vB Connect?

                            An upgrade would be great even if I personal not noticed a reason to upgrade in this great forum.

                            IMO this one of the better modern forum bases I use as a member.

                            Sadly this forum is about an 1/8 of itself, much of which caused by the vBulletin 5

                            There is no way to back to the old once vB5 was installed

                            vB5 is not photo/photography friendly. The owner of the forum I help moderate said he was getting vB5 but after learning of and then reading of the dramas we are stuck with vB4 for now

                            Sorry fellas; an upgrade is a BIG job, way over and above my capabilities and understandings but have a really long look at vB5 before committing


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                              Re: Forum upgrade advanced notice and planning

                              Conversion from 3 people from the back room when the owner announced an upgrade

                              This site is not mobile friendly unless using tapatalk, VB5 is Specifically mobile friendly , unless we get it the ranking of Number 1 could be affected

                              http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/


                              I will put a donate button to see if we can get the $200 for VB 5

                              http://www.vbulletin.com/en/mobile/

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                              don't even think about VB 5!!

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                              You got a thing against VB5?

                              How does VB5 compare to our current VB4.2.1 (which isn't the latest 4.2; current version of 4.2 available is 4.2.2 patch level 4)

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                              IMO John........; total ****

                              This is the one I know http://www.ausph.com/forum

                              apparently there is no way of returning to VB4. It was very early days of VB5 and I guess there have been some fix ups. Kym; Rick's IT expert dropped into photoholics with what I thought was a quiet warning between the lines. It basically killed that forum.

                              This mob http://4x4earth.com/forum/index.php have just moved to a new forum base but I'm not very active there.......couple things seem missing but........ Might be worth contacting them about the change over.....took them months to set it up before switching over.

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                              Yeah, been doing some googling... seems like VB4 is not as good as VB3 and VB5 is even worse.

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                              Nothing more has been said about the or any upgrade.
                              John is the forum's IT expert and works in a high IT office

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