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  • Re: Boris Gate

    Originally posted by Naughty Nigel View Post
    Jeremy Corbyn claims that he doesn't support terrorist organisations. That is a lie too, and is far more dangerous than Boris's personal liaisons and indiscretions.
    I just wonder about the above.

    I'm not very keen on Corbyn, but feel that it's very unlikely that he would get the support that he does, if he actually supports terrorist organisations.

    To get to the bottom of this would require 'drilling down' and reading proper transcripts of his conversations with these terrorists, rather than interpretations of the events made by journalists with possible right wing agendas.

    There's a very big difference between engaging with leaders of terrorist organisations to 'find a way forward', and supporting their aims and methods.

    As one right wing politician said "It's better to jaw, jaw, jaw, than to war, war, war"!

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    • Re: Boris Gate

      We are all spoon few by the media in some way or another so I suppose we all need to be circumspect when it comes to choosing our politicians.

      You are right that Jeremy Corbyn seems to have a lot of support, but most of that support is from the trades unions rather than Labour Party members and MP's, many of whom openly loathe him. Indeed, but for the unions David Miliband would probably be Leader of the opposition or even PM now.

      We also have to judge Jeremy and his shadow cabinet by what they say in public, and from what I heard from the Labour Party Conference it wasn't pretty.
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      • Re: Boris Gate

        Remoaners should all move to NI as Boris says they have the best very deal, effectively staying in the EU with free movement.

        Yesterday's Freedom Fighters are today's Terrorists and tomorrow's Politicians.

        We all love Mandela now.
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        • Re: Boris Gate

          Originally posted by Beagletorque View Post

          Yesterday's Freedom Fighters are today's Terrorists and tomorrow's Politicians.

          We all love Mandela now.

          I don't think Nelson Mandela ever killed anyone or plotted to kill them did he?
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          • Re: Boris Gate

            Originally posted by Naughty Nigel View Post
            I don't think Nelson Mandela ever killed anyone or plotted to kill them did he?
            Has Corbyn?
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            • Re: Boris Gate

              Originally posted by Beagletorque View Post
              Has Corbyn?
              We don't know but Jerry Adams and Martin McGuinness certainly did, either directly or indirectly.
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              • Re: Boris Gate

                Well you have killed people indirectly by causing CO2 to be emitted, same as the rest of us.
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                • Re: Boris Gate

                  Originally posted by Beagletorque View Post
                  Well you have killed people indirectly by causing CO2 to be emitted, same as the rest of us.
                  If you cannot see the connection between leaders of the Provisional IRA and people being killed we are clearly all wasting our time.
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                  • Re: Boris Gate

                    Yes, but how does that connect to JC? Is the link no less tenuous?
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                    • Re: Boris Gate

                      Originally posted by Beagletorque View Post
                      Well you have killed people indirectly by causing CO2 to be emitted, same as the rest of us.
                      Looks like Beag has forgotton to take his medication today !

                      He usually makes sensible comments.

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                      • Re: Boris Gate

                        Originally posted by Beagletorque View Post
                        Yes, but how does that connect to JC? Is the link no less tenuous?
                        Belfast Telegraph Article

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                        • Re: Boris Gate

                          From your link......

                          "We had no evidence that he knew they were actively involved in terrorism themselves."

                          "A former Special Branch officer, Peter Francis, has also said that Corbyn was investigated over his IRA links. There is no suggestion he carried out any acts of terrorism."

                          However we know for a fact that Boris's lot have allowed arms sales to Saudi which have directly killed many thousands, and they knew it would.
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                          • Re: Boris Gate

                            Originally posted by Naughty Nigel View Post
                            We are all spoon few by the media in some way or another so I suppose we all need to be circumspect when it comes to choosing our politicians.

                            You are right that Jeremy Corbyn seems to have a lot of support, but most of that support is from the trades unions rather than Labour Party members and MP's, many of whom openly loathe him. Indeed, but for the unions David Miliband would probably be Leader of the opposition or even PM now.

                            We also have to judge Jeremy and his shadow cabinet by what they say in public, and from what I heard from the Labour Party Conference it wasn't pretty.
                            Fact. Jeremy Corbyn was elected by there members of the party, not the unions.
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                            • Re: Boris Gate

                              Originally posted by Naughty Nigel View Post
                              If you cannot see the connection between leaders of the Provisional IRA and people being killed we are clearly all wasting our time.
                              Don't confuse Sinn Fein (a political party) with the Irish Republican Army. Sinn Fein may be the political wing of the IRA, but they are not the IRA.

                              Jim

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                              • Re: Boris Gate

                                Originally posted by Naughty Nigel View Post
                                I don't think Nelson Mandela ever killed anyone or plotted to kill them did he?
                                "Although initially committed to non-violent protest, in association with the SACP he co-founded the militant Umkhonto we Sizwe in 1961 and led a sabotage campaign against the government."

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela

                                Jim

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