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    Many months ago, it was suggested that, as many members are Senior Citizens, we should have a place to discuss problems of our age group. I think health issues were to be a priority.

    OK, I'll kick it off. Last July I finally agreed to go onto treatment for blood high pressure and high cholesterol levels. Although I was just about OK on the old guidelines I was not according to the new ones. This conclusion was from a blood test and readings from a strap-on 24h blood pressure monitor.

    The Atorvastatin for cholesterol was no problem. The Amylodipine was problematic, with a whole collection of side effects. From the morning after the first dose, I had itching over most parts of my body. On the third morning I had a spontaneous nosebleed, a one off, at least in my adult life. Here is part of a message I sent to my GP as few days later, having reported these symptoms:

    "Itching continues daily, with all parts of the body, at random, apart from chest, back and abdomen, affected. Over-the-counter antihistamines give some relief.

    Unexplained muscle stiffness: Last week, walking down stairs in the morning, my right calf muscle was stiff. Normal activities eased that. On another morning, the left calf muscle was stiff and slightly (sharp) painful, consistent with a strain. I walked that off easily, not consistent with my experience of injuries.

    Possible hair loss: My hair has been very thin for several decades, such that any further loss would be visible as pink skin showing through. I think this is starting to happen but I have not found unusual qualities of detached hairs. I am watching this".

    A day or two later I realised that the "shrinking of my gardening shoes in the sun in out conservatory" was my feet having swollen by about two shoe sizes.

    I also realised that the daily apathy was not due to the hot weather.

    The hair loss was confirmed.

    I stopped taking the pills on my own accord (after less than two weeks) and arranged an appointment with my GP.

    I am now on Indapamide and have had no side effects.

    My wife has been on Amylodipine for two years longer than I have. She said she had no problem but admitted to her ankles swelling.

    Harold
    The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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    I tried three different pills for high blood pressure, all of which either had nasty side effects or didn't work at all. I discussed this with my GP and we concluded that one reason I have (marginally) high BP was anxiety about having high BP. I haven't used my home BP monitor for a couple of months now and feel a lot better. I did however discover that a good slug of red wine lowered it quite well .
    Regards
    Richard

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    • #3
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      Quick brain dump before bed...

      Merely pushing 50.... I’ve been on blood pressure tablets for over a year now. They’re not that bad for most, so don’t worry. Just watch your balance. I had a couple of falls as my BP approached normal. That was blamed on lifestyle (drinker!) but I suspect it predates bad lifestyle because within weeks of taking the first pill I stopped being one of the overly sweaty people!

      Amlodipine... Difficult for me. Crippens had a knee jerk reaction to what turned out to be partly a white coat issue, so I’ve been on three different tablets ever since. The all over itching and generally feeling “strange” happened early on. Keep in touch with your Doctor, but hopefully the reactions go away as your body gets used to it. The occasional cough never went away for me.

      Cholesterol.... Given my lifestyle at the time, I was shocked... shocked, I tell you, to have cholestorol that was merely mediocre and no sign of Type 2 diabetes. The cholesterol came down with a better diet, less boozing and weight loss. But cholestoral is complicated. For a lot of high cholesterol people, the best lifestyle in the world doesn’t make a blind bit of difference. My old man is a case in point. Sorry.

      An Omron home blood pressure kit costs around twenty quid. I wouldn’t bother with anything more complex than that. Your blood pressure is a great early warning system. When systolic goes below 110, for me, that’s the sure sign of an oncoming cold or flu. I’ve headed off the worst of the symptoms a few times with that approach.

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      • #4
        Re: Age-Related Difficulties

        Originally posted by Otto View Post
        I haven't used my home BP monitor for a couple of months now and feel a lot better.
        I find that it takes at least 10 minutes of rest to get a minimal reading. Taking a reading doesn't make me anxious, mainly because my BP has never been dangerously high so I never felt I really needed to do anything about it. My approach, and that of my GP is better safe than sorry.

        My main concern before going to my GP originally was that I would be given a stricter diet regime. However, he believes that cholesterol levels are genetically determined and are from output by the liver. So, still lots of red meat and red wine for me!

        Harold
        The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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        • #5
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          My only issue at age 60 is Chronic Cluster Headaches

          Tried most of the treatments, preventative drugs that are primarily to treat other ailments
          These include Topiramate, Lithium and Gabapentin, all ineffective and come with unpleasant side effects.
          Had the Oxygen cylinder for pain relief, but hardly a portable solution.

          Seen many specialists and now manage it with Sumatriptan when an attack occurs
          Injection works quickest, but tablets are ok, just not as fast acting
          Not very pleasant, pain is extreme hence the nickname of "suicide headache"
          Won't kill me so could be much worse, nothing else wrong so can't complain

          Blood pressure is always right on the lower part of good and pulse rate is always low 60's. Never gets high even when I exercise or get a little bit agitated.
          Must be either reasonably fit or a psychopath
          Tad overweight at 6ft and 14st, but if it ain't broke don't fix it

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            My wife keeps telling me to go to the doctors and get a full health check but I keep putting it off. When I have been and had a BP test all has seemed OK and the GP hasn’t prescribed any tablets (not on any). I get lower back pain, and take a single 400mg ibuprofen most nights, when I remember. I’m probably your typical male who puts off going to the doctors.

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            • #7
              Re: Age-Related Difficulties

              Originally posted by Tram View Post
              My only issue at age 60 is Chronic Cluster Headaches

              Tried most of the treatments, preventative drugs that are primarily to treat other ailments
              These include Topiramate, Lithium and Gabapentin, all ineffective and come with unpleasant side effects.
              Had the Oxygen cylinder for pain relief, but hardly a portable solution.

              Seen many specialists and now manage it with Sumatriptan when an attack occurs
              Injection works quickest, but tablets are ok, just not as fast acting
              Not very pleasant, pain is extreme hence the nickname of "suicide headache"
              Won't kill me so could be much worse, nothing else wrong so can't complain

              Blood pressure is always right on the lower part of good and pulse rate is always low 60's. Never gets high even when I exercise or get a little bit agitated.
              Must be either reasonably fit or a psychopath
              Tad overweight at 6ft and 14st, but if it ain't broke don't fix it
              That's more than enough for your "only issue". My sincere sympathy.

              As for drugs, lithium is the only one I had heard of.

              Harold
              The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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              • #8
                Re: Age-Related Difficulties

                Originally posted by Tram View Post
                My only issue at age 60 is Chronic Cluster Headaches
                <SNIP>
                Blood pressure is always right on the lower part of good and pulse rate is always low 60's.
                I thought that low blood pressure can trigger headaches. Nitroglycerine lowers blood pressure (and is used for angina). 'NG headaches' were well known in explosives factories.

                Jim

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                • #9
                  Re: Age-Related Difficulties

                  Originally posted by Jim Ford View Post
                  I thought that low blood pressure can trigger headaches. Nitroglycerine lowers blood pressure (and is used for angina). 'NG headaches' were well known in explosives factories.

                  Jim
                  These headaches have nothing to do with blood pressure and mine is always fine anyway.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Age-Related Difficulties

                    Originally posted by Tram View Post
                    My only issue at age 60 is Chronic Cluster Headaches....
                    My wife suffered with this and 3-5 day migraine. We went through just about everything, all the drugs you mentioned and more...

                    About a year ago, she decided to go vegetarian and eat no processed foods.

                    She now only gets a bad headache about 6 to 8 weeks and for only a day or two.

                    Might be worth a try.?

                    Best of luck
                    Graham

                    We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Age-Related Difficulties

                      Originally posted by Graham_of_Rainham View Post
                      My wife suffered with this and 3-5 day migraine. We went through just about everything, all the drugs you mentioned and more...

                      About a year ago, she decided to go vegetarian and eat no processed foods.

                      She now only gets a bad headache about 6 to 8 weeks and for only a day or two.

                      Might be worth a try.?

                      Best of luck
                      With all due respect Headaches are not connected to Migraines.
                      They are generated by the hypothalmus when it triggers a trigeminal pathway in the brainstem.
                      Certain things are known to trigger this activity, in my case heat and fumes seem to do the most damage.
                      I have seen some of the leading neurologists in the country and been treated at the National hospital For Neurology and Neurosurgery at Queen Square.
                      Given up now on any remedies medical or therwise, life is for living, not undergoing tests and being a case study for all and sundry

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                        Re: Age-Related Difficulties

                        20cm aprox of titanium rod and screws holding my spine in place.
                        This space for rent

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                        • #13
                          Re: Age-Related Difficulties

                          I would recommend anyone to go for a 'well man/woman' checkup.

                          I had one some years ago when I was working. The nurse did a test then said "I think the machines playing up" and did the test again. She then told me that everything was fine .... except for one test and she told me to see a doctor sooner than later because my cholesterol level was "a bit high".

                          I went to see my doctor who then did a proper and full test via the hospital. My final cholesterol result was .... 13.5 !! He wrote the prescription for tablets and, while I was there, I said "Is that why I feel the cold a lot". More tests were done and it was found that my thyroid was pretty much duff. More tablets (free prescriptions for everything when on hormone replacement therapy for thyroid) to take but what the heck. I just keep taking the tablets and all is fine.

                          Yes guys, go for that checkup, it really is worth it in the long run. If they find something then it's caught, hopefully, in good time. If all is good then it's a load off your mind.

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                            Re: Age-Related Difficulties

                            This thread's a bit like a doctor's waiting room (I think that I was the one that came up with the original idea)!

                            A couple of years ago I became aware of a fuzzy area to the right of centre in my right eye, so I visited the optician. When I did the test where you have to look into an instrument and press a button when you see a light, it was found that I wasn't seeing the lights in the fuzzy area. The optician scanned my retina and said that he had faxed the local hospital for me to have an examination, but advised me not to wait but to go straight to Moorefields in London. I said that I would go the next day, but he said emphatically "No - go now!", which I did.

                            Moorefields found that I have Age Related Macula Degeneration, and I have been having injections in the eye since then, roughly on a monthly basis. There's no cure, it's just a matter of controlling the build up fluid under the retina, and suppressing the development of the abnormal blood vessels.

                            I've also got a benign enlarged prostate, which means I have difficulty in emptying my bladder, and when I do I have to go again a short while later. I've been taking Tamsulosin for it and also Finasteride. They've both now lost much of their efficacy, so I'm going to have to visit the doctor again soon.

                            Jim

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                              Re: Age-Related Difficulties

                              Originally posted by Jim Ford View Post
                              This thread's a bit like a doctor's waiting room (I think that I was the one that came up with the original idea)!

                              A couple of years ago I became aware of a fuzzy area to the right of centre in my right eye, so I visited the optician. When I did the test where you have to look into an instrument and press a button when you see a light, it was found that I wasn't seeing the lights in the fuzzy area. The optician scanned my retina and said that he had faxed the local hospital for me to have an examination, but advised me not to wait but to go straight to Moorefields in London. I said that I would go the next day, but he said emphatically "No - go now!", which I did.

                              Moorefields found that I have Age Related Macula Degeneration, and I have been having injections in the eye since then, roughly on a monthly basis. There's no cure, it's just a matter of controlling the build up fluid under the retina, and suppressing the development of the abnormal blood vessels.
                              Jim, Sorry to hear that. A little bit of good news is that you have the form for which stem cells therapy has been successful in trials.

                              Harold
                              The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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