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  • Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

    DP Review have just posted their review of the Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7. They have given it 79% and a Silver Award. Needless to say, judging from the comments about the review, this has not gone down too well with the Panasonic faithful. Comparisons with the Olympus E-M5 and E-M1 are inevitable and are being aired vigorously. Of course it is easy to feel ever so slightly smug when your camera has been given a Gold Award but I am sure the differences between top cameras are very small these days.

    Who would be a professional reviewer?

    Ron

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    Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

    I used a GX-7 when I was in Japan in August and I quite liked it. The tilting viewfinder is great although the OM-D ones are I think superior. The shutter is not refined and the top shooting rate is slow compared to the OM-Ds'. Panasonic's wifi system is arguably better than the Olympus one. The GX7 feels quite large compared to an E-M5. I think the sensor performance is quite close to that of an E-M5. In the end I think an E-M5 is a better camera but the GX7 is targeting a slightly different market. The GX7 also has a better video system.

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      Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

      I borrowed a GX7 for a couple of weeks and really liked it.
      Far easier to set up than Olympus IMO, better button placement etc for me, I would happily own one and probably will when they drop in price.

      I currently use an EM1 and a GH3, love both Cameras but when it comes down to usability I feel Panasonic are superior to Olympus, I hardly touched the manual for the GH3 and set it up in about an hour, several hours and 4 days later I am still not fully in touch with the EM1, but aren't we lucky to have the choice
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        Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

        The tilting viewfinder looks quite a good idea for taking low level shots, although I rarely use my camera like that. I suppose having the viewfinder mounted on the left of the body might be preferable for people to do not like having their nose pressed against the lcd screen on cameras with a centre mounted viewfinder such as the OMDs. It doesn't actually bother me and I am rather well endowed nasally.

        One thing in the GX-7's favour is that Kai on DigitalRev thinks that it is possibly the best looking camera released this year! Interestingly, looking at this review, it seems that to open the flap for the USB and HDMI ports you have to lift the tilting LCD. Kai criticised the E-M1 for this but I don't remember him picking it up in his review of the GX-7. OK, I will stop bashing him now.

        Ron

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        • #5
          Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

          Originally posted by deckitout View Post
          I borrowed a GX7 for a couple of weeks and really liked it.
          Far easier to set up than Olympus IMO, better button placement etc for me, I would happily own one and probably will when they drop in price.

          I currently use an EM1 and a GH3, love both Cameras but when it comes down to usability I feel Panasonic are superior to Olympus, I hardly touched the manual for the GH3 and set it up in about an hour, several hours and 4 days later I am still not fully in touch with the EM1, but aren't we lucky to have the choice
          I think you are right that the Panasonic UI is more intuitive but the Olympus one lets you do more. Once you are used to the Olympus UI the Panasonic one feels a bit limiting.

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            Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

            The GX7's tilting viewfinder is useful - for landscape shots. Unfortunately I find that I shoot in portrait mode a lot of the time (my brain must be tilted), and low-level shots are a problem with the OMDs as they would be with the GX7. The only workaround is one Ian suggested a while back - take them in landscape and crop!
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            • #7
              Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

              Is there a reason why Olympus don't use the fully articulating screen nowadays as per the GH3 and G6. I really prefer them as opposed to the tilting screen which I find are only useful in landscape mode.
              Phil

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              • #8
                Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

                Originally posted by deckitout View Post
                Is there a reason why Olympus don't use the fully articulating screen nowadays as per the GH3 and G6. I really prefer them as opposed to the tilting screen which I find are only useful in landscape mode.
                I think it's primarily down to size issues (the up/down only arrangement is much more compact) but there is a theory that the side-hinge arrangement does require a fee to whoever owns the patent.

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                • #9
                  Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

                  It's a personal choice... there is a detailed comparison here http://tysonrobichaudphotography.wordpress.com/ where the reviewer prefers the GX7 to the E-M5.
                  Chris

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                  • #10
                    Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

                    A lot of people lobbied for a 'corner' EVF and not only did Panasonic deliver but the made it tilt But overall the E-M5 for me is a faster and more quiet and refined camera and I don't mind the EVF position.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

                      Originally posted by Ian View Post
                      I think it's primarily down to size issues (the up/down only arrangement is much more compact) but there is a theory that the side-hinge arrangement does require a fee to whoever owns the patent.

                      Ian
                      Funny you should say that, I read somewhere that Canon had the Patent, come to think of it my Canon G1 had one if I recall many moons ago.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

                        Originally posted by Ian View Post
                        I used a GX-7 when I was in Japan in August and I quite liked it. The tilting viewfinder is great although the OM-D ones are I think superior. The shutter is not refined and the top shooting rate is slow compared to the OM-Ds'. Panasonic's wifi system is arguably better than the Olympus one. The GX7 feels quite large compared to an E-M5. I think the sensor performance is quite close to that of an E-M5. In the end I think an E-M5 is a better camera but the GX7 is targeting a slightly different market. The GX7 also has a better video system.

                        Ian
                        I don't think serious Video users would buy it as it has no mic input, something they are fairly passionate about, in the Video world the G6 is getting plenty of praise due to being way cheaper than a GH3 with additional features such as peaking. It's a nice Camera but just doesn't have the Olympus feel of quality for me.
                        Phil

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                        • #13
                          Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

                          Originally posted by deckitout View Post
                          It's a nice Camera but just doesn't have the Olympus feel of quality for me.
                          I've been ponding over EP5 vs GX7 for my next move... on paper the GX7 wins but it just doesn't fill me with the excitement of the EP5, listening to my head the GX7 wins, listening to my heart the EP5 wins
                          GX7, EP3, 9-18, 14-45, 45-150, 20 1.7, 25 1.4, 45 1.8, FL36 & various OM glass. flickr

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                          • #14
                            Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

                            I think the EP5 is way overpriced, if you want the VF4 it's a fair bit more expensive than the GX7 with it's built in VF, which admittedly is not on par with the VF4
                            Phil

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                            • #15
                              Re: Panasonic GX-7 Review - trouble at t' mill

                              Originally posted by deckitout View Post
                              I think the EP5 is way overpriced, if you want the VF4 it's a fair bit more expensive than the GX7 with it's built in VF, which admittedly is not on par with the VF4
                              The free VF4 offer does level the playing field quite considerably...
                              GX7, EP3, 9-18, 14-45, 45-150, 20 1.7, 25 1.4, 45 1.8, FL36 & various OM glass. flickr

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