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  • New iPad (iPad 3) question

    I don't have one to hand so I need the help of anyone who has a new iPad with the much-vaunted Retina display. This is 2048x1536 pixels, which is 4 times as many pixels as the previous iPad (1024x768).

    If you view web-resolution photos like the ones we see here all the time, around 800 or so pixels, you would have to zoom them up to make them a decent size on the screen, yes? Or Do you just view everything on a Web page a quarter of the size you are used to?

    Also, what does video look like? A Full HD video is 1920x1080. Does video automatically fill the screen or do you have a huge border around it?

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    Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

    Pretty sure it just scales webpages for best fit...

    I'll have a comparison of the girlfriends Ipad3 vs my Note 10.1 later and see what I can find out for you
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    • #3
      Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

      I referred your request to my son who researches these things and got this response.

      http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/146...-can-t-do-this

      My son recently bought the Samsung 10.1 tab and is ecstatic with its performance.
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      • #4
        Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

        I got bored with the appleinsider forum link when someone not happy with his iPad3 was basically ridiculed for having that opinion. Anyway, the argument there was about screen aspect ratios and I am focusing on screen resolution.

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        • #5
          Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

          1:06am -Lying on back in bed with S3

          Just got another comment from son. I don't know if it addresses your question Ian.

          "A photo will be the same width and height on the page but the image will be clearer and shaper.

          Moreover what will happen is the density will increase which is similar to a DVD movie playing on a 52" inch plasma T.V compared to a Blueray movie.

          Imagine making a photo ( within the same area ) out of square blocks (which are smaller), the more blocks you have the sharper and clearer the image will be.

          Sent from my Samsung Note 10.1 N8000"
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          • #6
            Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

            Originally posted by pandora View Post
            1:06am -Lying on back in bed with S3

            Just got another comment from son. I don't know if it addresses your question Ian.

            "A photo will be the same width and height on the page but the image will be clearer and shaper.

            Moreover what will happen is the density will increase which is similar to a DVD movie playing on a 52" inch plasma T.V compared to a Blueray movie.

            Imagine making a photo ( within the same area ) out of square blocks (which are smaller), the more blocks you have the sharper and clearer the image will be.

            Sent from my Samsung Note 10.1 N8000"
            Unfortunately, I think your son is mistaken on that one. If the photo is 800x600 on a web page and is its native size, then it will appear to be a quarter of the size on an iPad3 screen compared to an earlier iPad. Of course it can be shown at the same size but that would mean each image pixel would be displayed by four display pixels. Apple might argue that it would look the same as on an old iPad but not better. If the image is not resized perfectly it will have to be interpolated and no matter how good your interpolation is there will be a loss of sharpness.

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            • #7
              Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

              There might not be a loss of sharpness : I hear/see the new retina display is rather nicely just detailed enough for the pixels not to be seen ... most of the time.
              So depending on the upscaling it does to 800-pixel images, you might not see any loss of sharpness compared to the same image on the old display. You might not even be aware of upscaling, downscaling and the like.

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              • #8
                Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

                Ian.
                Everything comes up at full size on the iPad 3 screen. Web pages display exactly as they do on my PC with everything in the correct proportions. The only difference I can see is that the images are sharper, brighter and have better colours than my PC screen, more like the OLED screen on my EM-5. ( Admitedly my PC only has an Acer X193HQ display which is nothing special. If I want to show anyone some of my images these days I put them in a separate folder on the PC and load them on SWMBO's iPad via iTunes. You can zoom in, using the "two finger gesture" and I've never "seen" any pixelation. How this is arrived at I don't know but presume it is the way iTunes converts images to the iPad format. The few bits of video I've shot with the EM-5 display beautifully although with a border top and bottom in widescreen format.

                To be honest the Retina display is the one thing that would cause me to change to a Mac if I could afford it.

                Hope this helps.

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                • #9
                  Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

                  I see the same. It just scales as it would do on a desktop, on rotation, the picture is scaled along with the text to fit.

                  It seems that there are no demo videos on the iPad as there are on my note which makes comparison a bit more difficult.

                  To be honest there isn't much in it. The iPad screen seems to have a wider viewing angle. Trying to do a direct comparison is hard as the iPad seems to scale everything in the first instance. What is clear is that the text is sharper, but unless you have the two side by side you wouldn't notice.

                  Typing is equally satisfying on both devices as is viewing pictures. If you are used to an iPhone or iPad, sticking either it is easy. If you are an android user you will quickly become used to snap iPad, it's a mode natural processing my opinion because there are some quirks of android to get used to - it needs a little more setting up.

                  Hope this helps a little
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                  • #10
                    Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

                    My interest in this topic was triggered by Vincent Bockaert's article here:

                    http://www.123di.com/apple_does_not_...and_retina.php

                    I've known Vincent for years I completely respect his understanding of digital imaging.

                    Ian
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                    • #11
                      Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

                      My ebook should look good on it, and at only 99p!
                      John

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                      • #12
                        Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

                        HD video will always have a border top and bottom because of the aspect ratio.
                        HD videos will be no clearer than on earlier Ipad II.
                        Web pictures/pages show as they would on any screen size wise
                        Generic scaling of 4 to 1 is used under these circumstances.
                        Text on screen of retina display is very clear and very easy on the eye.
                        Photos on a retina display look superb.
                        Whether you go for a IPad or other device depends very much on what you want it to do.
                        Apple is as Apple does, if you don't like it there are pelnty of other products, but there has to be a reason why Apple users always have a smug grin orn their faces.
                        We are introducing Samsung tablets at work and very nice they are too, still wouldn't swap my IPad3 though, just my 2 pence.......

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                        • #13
                          Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

                          Originally posted by Ian View Post
                          My interest in this topic was triggered by Vincent Bockaert's article here:

                          http://www.123di.com/apple_does_not_...and_retina.php

                          I've known Vincent for years I completely respect his understanding of digital imaging.

                          Ian
                          I do hope so!

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                          • #14
                            Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

                            Originally posted by Zuiko View Post
                            My ebook should look good on it, and at only 99p!
                            I do hope so!

                            got the right post this time............

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                            • #15
                              Re: New iPad (iPad 3) question

                              Originally posted by Howi View Post
                              HD video will always have a border top and bottom because of the aspect ratio.
                              HD videos will be no clearer than on earlier Ipad II.
                              Web pictures/pages show as they would on any screen size wise
                              Generic scaling of 4 to 1 is used under these circumstances.
                              Text on screen of retina display is very clear and very easy on the eye.
                              Photos on a retina display look superb.
                              Whether you go for a IPad or other device depends very much on what you want it to do.
                              Apple is as Apple does, if you don't like it there are pelnty of other products, but there has to be a reason why Apple users always have a smug grin orn their faces.
                              We are introducing Samsung tablets at work and very nice they are too, still wouldn't swap my IPad3 though, just my 2 pence.......
                              Video is what makes me love my Note 10.1 - aspect ratio. I've been plagued by the letterbox phenomenon for too long, even on "widescreen" TVs.

                              As for good displays on tablets, the new Nexus 10.1 (Samsung/Google collaboration) is likely to make waves when it is released.
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