Apple vs. Samsung

[timmypreston]

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An Apple Apple by Tim J Preston, on Flickr

[Ian]

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It's all very ironic when you consider their "1984" ad...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R706isyDrqI

Oh, absolutely - I have reminded people of this many times.

Ian

[Mark]

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Can we have a bit of balance here ? I've tried to avoid posting on these threads to avoid arguments flaring up but Apple is far from the only company to behave in this way.

Apple and Samsung have a complex relationship as Samsung supply some of the components used in Apple products and hence they share some technology. Samsung are counter suing Apple over some of their patents. The companies are still trading with each other, so I guess they don't see it as a big problem either way.

Patents are used to protect ideas and inventions in many industries by all sizes of companies. I'm sure in the camera industry too.

Think some people have very short memories here - Microsoft in the 90's anyone ? Stopping the Netscape browser from being used in Windows effectively killed it off as you had to use Internet Explorer. Yes Apple pinched the idea of the GUI based (windows based) operating system from Xerox but then Microsoft who were writing software for Apple pinched it from Apple and turned it into Windows as we know it and massive sales, profits and market dominance.

Have a look at "Triumph of the Nerds" on YouTube, it's a fascinating story of the rise of the Silicon Valley giants.

I'm sure there are more Microsoft examples and no doubt some from Google, Facebook and others of this kind of heavy handed, protectionist or perhaps ruthless behaviour.

And yes I do appreciate the irony of the Apple advert mentioned above They are so much bigger now.

Nice to see it again, it's still a strong ad visually I think - good work from a chap called Ridley Scott. Think he might have a bit of talent and could do well for himself .....


to all,

Mark

[al_kaholik]

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Microsoft and IBM with DOS/OS2. The internet browser war, now Apple using "Apple Maps" instead of the industry standard "Google Maps". Most companies are as bad as each other when it comes to this type of thing.

My view is that Apple managed to get in early with the iPod/iPhone which made things revolve around them - mainly because the design and advertising was right. I had an MP3 player (Creative Labs) years before iPods broke out (And it cost a fortune for 256mb!) I remember saving up a shed load of money from my paper round and buying it online, yes, with a 28.8k modem most likely.

Most Sony equipment comes ready to go with iPod/Phone docks but not their own Walkman interface, which cost a chunk more money. Sony just know what the consumer wants/has a need for.

Fair play, they have done well, and iPod, iPad and iPhone are all household brands interchanged to mean MP3 players, tablet PCs and smartphones a la Hoover and Cellotape. I for one am not a fan of Apple products or their hype, their computers I understand but that isn't because they look flashy. It is because they are good, stable systems with interesting and useful features (ROM booting for example back when we were waiting an age for PCs to do a full POST). I still don't and probably won't own one though as for the price I could buy a lot of anything else

[timg]

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I remember saving up a shed load of money from my paper round and buying it online, yes, with a 28.8k modem most likely.

You had an mp3 player AND internet when you were doing a paper round?? Now I do feel old!

[al_kaholik]

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Some of us are quite "young" I guess :P

[Graham_of_Rainham]

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Years ago I wrote several bits of software that only worked with a main system as additional add-on routines, loaded as and when you wanted them.

They were called "Address Programmes (APS)" If only I'd called them "APPS"

[Ian]

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[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAtje5weAU0[/ame]

[Chevvyf1]

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Ian, THAT is a priceless video - iglad I viewed it now - Apple will surely get it removed under ... copyright use of name Apple and some "terms" ...

I am JUST SO GLAD I DID NOT BUY APPLE last week - I would have sent it back (under the cooling off 14 days Distance Selling Regs )

Up your, Core, Apple

[Ross the fiddler]

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Years ago I wrote several bits of software that only worked with a main system as additional add-on routines, loaded as and when you wanted them.

They were called "Address Programmes (APS)" If only I'd called them "APPS"

My first bit of programming was with punch cards. Those were the days!

[Roberta]

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yes ross I used punch cards.....................and had to be able to write DOS so when the tape stretched we could fix it after hours...................

[StephenL]

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My first bit of programming was with punch cards. Those were the days!

When I first started as a computer operator we still had paper tape reels. Then we went on to punch cards. Oh what fun we had on the night shift when we used to drop a batch and had to try to put them back into the right order.

I still have loads of punch cards. Make useful shopping lists!

[Wally]

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I can probably predate the above? We use to use arrays of phone jacks and cable to program the comms systems and for the computer mainframe we used rolls of paper tape which were programmed using a teleprinter [MURRAY CODE] which was always one letter behind whatever you typed. One of our whizz kids could not only program THE program but could inter-face music so that when the punched tape was played we could listen to what could only be described as bag pipe music.

[Ian]

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My first bit of programming was with punch cards. Those were the days!

I did a BSc course in Computer Science back in 1979 at Hatfield Poly. We had some serious kit there - a DEC System 10 mainframe, for a start. I had to learn to program in Octal, and also Pascal, COBOL, and FORTRAN, although Basic was the most fun. Punched cards and paper tapes were involved!

Ian

[al_kaholik]

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paper tape reels.

We still use paper drums (programme rolls) at work There are only a small handful of people with the experience in the world who can maintain the machines