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  • #2
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    Does it have any advantages over an E-M1 in some contexts? I have some nice FT lenses and have sometimes wondered if they might perform better on a native FT camera rather than E-M1 and MMF-3.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by RobEW View Post
      Does it have any advantages over an E-M1 in some contexts? I have some nice FT lenses and have sometimes wondered if they might perform better on a native FT camera rather than E-M1 and MMF-3.
      Focusing of FT lenses will almost certainly be better but in all other respects the E-M1 should win hands down unless you particularly favour an optical viewfinder.

      Having said that I am sorely tempted to bid on this because I do miss the E-3 that I sold; in fact since passing on my E-M5 to my daughter I sometimes miss having a camera full stop!

      Perversely, the extra size and weight of the E-3 is not so much of a disadvantage these days, since I'm not well enough to venture very far - with or without a camera!
      John

      "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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      • #4
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        Hope you are able to go for it John, it would be great to see you posting images again.
        http://www.flickr.com/photos/flip_photo_flickr/

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        • #5
          Re: E3 Heads Up

          Originally posted by RobEW View Post
          Does it have any advantages over an E-M1 in some contexts? I have some nice FT lenses and have sometimes wondered if they might perform better on a native FT camera rather than E-M1 and MMF-3.

          No, there are no advantages over the E-M1. The E-M1 has miles better digital range, better high ISO, better virtually everything. And lets not forget that nice, strong AA filter in front of the E-3 sensor that made everything just not that sharp.

          People saying good things about this gear is just nostalgia. There is a pretty good reason why the old Olympus DSLRs aren't worth anything anymore.
          E-M1 mk II
          12mm f/2 | 17mm f/1.2 | 17mm f/1.8 | 25mm f1.8 | 45mm f1.8 | 9-18mm | 14-150mm

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Edman View Post
            No, there are no advantages over the E-M1. The E-M1 has miles better digital range, better high ISO, better virtually everything. And lets not forget that nice, strong AA filter in front of the E-3 sensor that made everything just not that sharp.

            People saying good things about this gear is just nostalgia. There is a pretty good reason why the old Olympus DSLRs aren't worth anything anymore.

            I'm sorry, I don't entirely agree.

            Whilst you are right that technology has increased since the heyday of the E-3, to the point that the OM-D range are vastly superior cameras in every respect, this does not mean the older Four Thirds DSLRs are suddenly incapable of producing a high quality photograph. In its day my E-3 produced fine 16 x 12 prints, many of which sold quite well and often earnt me the rather backhanded compliment, "Your pictures are great, you must have a really good camera!"
            John

            "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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            • #7
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              I have plenty of nice pictures taken with my Olympus DSLRs.

              They're still terrible cameras compared to modern cameras. Blown highlights, noise at ISO 100, AA filter induced softness, no leeway in RAW to recover, crappy IBIS, not enough MP to crop to 16:9.

              The DxoMark score of even the E5 is much lower than that of a Sony RX100. And the E5 is less than 2 years older than an RX100. The world moves forward pretty quickly, which is why a meal at a nice restaurant costs more than an old Olympus DSLR.
              E-M1 mk II
              12mm f/2 | 17mm f/1.2 | 17mm f/1.8 | 25mm f1.8 | 45mm f1.8 | 9-18mm | 14-150mm

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by Edman View Post
                No, there are no advantages over the E-M1. The E-M1 has miles better digital range, better high ISO, better virtually everything. And lets not forget that nice, strong AA filter in front of the E-3 sensor that made everything just not that sharp.

                People saying good things about this gear is just nostalgia. There is a pretty good reason why the old Olympus DSLRs aren't worth anything anymore.
                I walked away from the forum because of internet "experts" like this.

                I have two shots in a 2019 birds calender both taken with an E-3 and my decades old OM Zuiko 350mm. One is a Hummingbird in flight, something impossible even with current Olympus equipment according to the internet "experts"
                It's the image that's important, not the tools used to make it.

                David M's Photoblog

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                • #9
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                  Don't get your panties in a twist. Where did I say you cannot take good pictures with an Olympus DSLR? I clearly said I have taken plenty of nice pictures with mine.

                  The question here is, why would you use an Olympus DSLR, when you already own an Olympus E-M1?


                  Also, this is a downwards going spiral. Why stop at the E-3? What's wrong with the E-1? And actually, people took really nice pictures with film cameras in the 70s.
                  E-M1 mk II
                  12mm f/2 | 17mm f/1.2 | 17mm f/1.8 | 25mm f1.8 | 45mm f1.8 | 9-18mm | 14-150mm

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by David M View Post
                    I walked away from the forum because of internet "experts" like this.

                    I have two shots in a 2019 birds calender both taken with an E-3 and my decades old OM Zuiko 350mm. One is a Hummingbird in flight, something impossible even with current Olympus equipment according to the internet "experts"
                    Hi David,

                    Nice to see you still look in on the forum. All the best for 2019.
                    John

                    "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Edman View Post
                      The question here is, why would you use an Olympus DSLR, when you already own an Olympus E-M1?
                      I don't disagree with this at all but for someone like me with a very limited budget, old Four Thirds DSLRs such as the E-3 offer an affordable way back into the game. There is no way I could afford even a second hand E-M1, but I might just manage an E-3. Or an E-510 - I still marvel at the OOC JPEGs my wife gets out of hers.
                      John

                      "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Edman View Post
                        The question here is, why would you use an Olympus DSLR, when you already own an Olympus E-M1?
                        Maybe for the same reason people love driving vintage sport cars...

                        Pure pleasure

                        Jax

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Edman View Post
                          The DxoMark score of even the E5 is much lower than that of a Sony RX100. And the E5 is less than 2 years older than an RX100.
                          What - the RX100 with the fixed zoom lens 10.4-37.1mm, f1.8-4.9 against the E3 with the Zuiko 12-60mm or 14-35mm F2 or Zuiko 50-100mm F2 or several other pro lenses?

                          Link please!

                          Jim

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                          • #14
                            Best Regards
                            Bill

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                            • #15
                              Re: E3 Heads Up

                              Originally posted by Edman View Post
                              Also, this is a downwards going spiral. Why stop at the E-3? What's wrong with the E-1? And actually, people took really nice pictures with film cameras in the 70s.
                              I didn't, as well as My E-5, E3, and E-1, I bought a spare E-1 in case my original ever packs up.
                              Accept its limitations and it still gives super results.
                              Best Regards
                              Bill

                              The nearest I have to a home page.
                              http://www.flickr.com/photos/peak4/
                              They're Watching You!

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