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  • #16
    Re: EP2 or EP3

    I've had the E-P2, and it's a great camera. Having said that, if I were to buy a Pen again (and I might!) I wouldn't bother over much about the body but make sure I had enough money to buy the E-VF2 (or possibly the E-VF3) as well. I consider it virtually essential, but then I hate holding a camera at arms length.
    Stephen

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    • #17
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      Well, I've gone and done it - placed an order for an E-P3 twin lens kit.
      John

      "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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      • #18
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        You can tell where the money is these days .....
        Stephen

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by StephenL View Post
          You can tell where the money is these days .....
          Haha, yes, but I've had to sell some treasured items such as my Pentax digital spot meter to finance this - I hope I won't regret it!

          I'll see how I get on using this kit exclusively for a while, then it's serious decision time - If I want to add to the kit (like a 45mm f1.8 for example) I will have to sell the E-3 kit, burning my bridges and going completely MFT.

          Unless, of course, I win the latest competition - that might just give the FT gear a stay of execution.

          Or if I get the job I have an interview for tomorrow - where's the Smilies for fingers crossed and praying on my hands and knees!

          Shirley, I handled the E-P3 at my local shop again today and it really does feel right for me. I agree with others that it is probably not worth the money compared to other models, at least on paper, but handling is the No 1 priority for me these days and for that I'm prepared to pay a premium if I have to. good luck with coming to your own decision.
          John

          "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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          • #20
            Re: EP2 or EP3

            Originally posted by StephenL View Post
            I've had the E-P2, and it's a great camera. Having said that, if I were to buy a Pen again (and I might!) I wouldn't bother over much about the body but make sure I had enough money to buy the E-VF2 (or possibly the E-VF3) as well. I consider it virtually essential, but then I hate holding a camera at arms length.
            The Leica 14-150 FT lens I've bought (for my E-1) should arrive today or tomorrow. I've a feeling it will be as unwieldy on the E-PL1 as the 70-300 was but I'll give it a go!

            I wondered yesterday if someone produced a screw-on grip for the E-PL1 to give more stability when using larger FT lenses. Seems like a no-brainer to me?

            All I could find was this DIY jobby: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=37112863

            But then there's the problem of the shutter button becoming unreachable and as the PL1 doesn't do remote shutter release a plug in 2nd shutter button, as in add-on 3rd party battery grips, that's no good either.

            I know... when I want to use a big lens, I'll use a big body!

            David
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            • #21
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              Originally posted by DJMC View Post
              The Leica 14-150 FT lens I've bought (for my E-1) should arrive today or tomorrow. I've a feeling it will be as unwieldy on the E-PL1 as the 70-300 was but I'll give it a go!

              I wondered yesterday if someone produced a screw-on grip for the E-PL1 to give more stability when using larger FT lenses. Seems like a no-brainer to me?

              All I could find was this DIY jobby: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=37112863

              But then there's the problem of the shutter button becoming unreachable and as the PL1 doesn't do remote shutter release a plug in 2nd shutter button, as in add-on 3rd party battery grips, that's no good either.

              I know... when I want to use a big lens, I'll use a big body!

              The 14-150 Leica is very similar in size to a 14-54 and is not unwieldy at all. It's a brilliant lens.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Ian View Post
                The 14-150 Leica is very similar in size to a 14-54 and is not unwieldy at all. It's a brilliant lens.

                Ian
                Would be great if it handles well on E-1 and E-PL1 so I don't have to buy an MFT Oly 14-150 too. I'll reserve judgement until I try it on both.

                David
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                • #23
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                  Congrats, welcome to the m4/3 club John, you will love it.

                  Paul

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Woofmix View Post
                    Congrats, welcome to the m4/3 club John, you will love it.

                    Paul
                    Thanks Paul, I'm already there with an E-PL1, which is what convinced me to take it further. It's no E-3 but it is so much more portable and convenient. In a better handling, better specified and faster body I'm sure it has the potential to become my main system.
                    John

                    "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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                    • #25
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                      I have to say I went through the same thought process as John (albeit coming from a DSLR, the E-P3 is my first m4/3).

                      After trying all of the cameras, Panasonics and Olympus in various Jessops stores, I decided the E-P3 was the camera I wanted. I'd rather wait until I could afford it than pick one of the other ones, just because it felt right for me, handling wise, etc. I'm hoping to use it til it goes pop (a long time in the future I hope!), in the same way I can't see my current DSLR being replaced until that goes bang...

                      Then came along the very handy message about the Cameraworld Olympus day and I became the happy owner of one!

                      I would say at the moment, I can fit mine with the 17mm pancake on in my handbag (and no, it's not a Mary Poppins carpetbag!), as I bought the olympus wrapping case (which looks ugly but keeps the camera small). It's certainly not Canon Ixus small though, it's not going to fit in my jacket, but the size is OK for *my* tastes.

                      Now the lens I will be saving up for, for Focus next year is the 45mm Olympus. I am still hoping it will fit in the handbag, but I can cope if not!

                      I suspect that doesn't help any, but I can say I am really enjoying my PEN - it goes everywhere with me, even to the supermarket a couple of days ago in my lunch hour to photograph a nice Autumnal tree in the car park!

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                      • #26
                        Re: EP2 or EP3

                        Originally posted by DJMC View Post
                        Shirley, we still don't know much about what you want of your new camera, other than "portability".

                        Is that an ability to put it in a pocket? If so, the interchangeability of the PEN lenses perhaps rules it out, unless you want several bulging pockets? You'd need a camera bag, or maybe a large handbag?

                        The XZ-1 fits in my jeans pocket, but 'only' 10MP and a maximum optical EFL of 112mm may not be sufficient for you if you're looking for large prints and a longer reach. But 112mm is better than the PEN's 14-42mm (EFL 84mm max).

                        So, is it ultimate image quality you're after, in which case a PEN and a bag of lenses is the solution, or a compromise for greater portability?

                        Tel us a little more.........

                        Hi David,

                        I don't really want or need it to fit into a pocket , just want something which is a bit smaller than my E30. I can get the E30 into some of my handbags but its really too big. I did consider the XZ1 but I think after a while I will be frustrated by the limitations of a fixed lens, also I would want the images to be good enough quality to enter into competitions and exhibitions so I think I need a better spec.

                        I am planning a trip to a camera shop to try some out...I suspect I will find it difficult to leave the shop without a new camera!

                        All the advice has been very helpful in getting my thinking straight and sorting out the differences between the versions.

                        Shirley
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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by Zuiko View Post
                          Haha, yes, but I've had to sell some treasured items such as my Pentax digital spot meter to finance this - I hope I won't regret it!

                          I'll see how I get on using this kit exclusively for a while, then it's serious decision time - If I want to add to the kit (like a 45mm f1.8 for example) I will have to sell the E-3 kit, burning my bridges and going completely MFT.

                          Unless, of course, I win the latest competition - that might just give the FT gear a stay of execution.

                          Or if I get the job I have an interview for tomorrow - where's the Smilies for fingers crossed and praying on my hands and knees!

                          Shirley, I handled the E-P3 at my local shop again today and it really does feel right for me. I agree with others that it is probably not worth the money compared to other models, at least on paper, but handling is the No 1 priority for me these days and for that I'm prepared to pay a premium if I have to. good luck with coming to your own decision.
                          Hi John,
                          How did the interview go and has the camera arrived yet?
                          I have just sold my 7-14 lens so I could be buying something soon Still not finally decided, I think I need to handle a few cameras and see what I like. I may take a trip to SRS in Watford, I think they have a good selection of Olympus cameras.....probably end up with an E3/E5 after all this.
                          Shirley
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                          • #28
                            Re: EP2 or EP3

                            Originally posted by shirley View Post
                            Hi John,
                            How did the interview go and has the camera arrived yet?
                            I have just sold my 7-14 lens so I could be buying something soon Still not finally decided, I think I need to handle a few cameras and see what I like. I may take a trip to SRS in Watford, I think they have a good selection of Olympus cameras.....probably end up with an E3/E5 after all this.
                            Shirley
                            here
                            John

                            "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Zuiko View Post
                              ...However, the muppets in London sent an E-PL3 in error! ...
                              That doesn't surprise me a bit, I think the current 3 Pens are giving shop assistants a very hard time.
                              The bloke in Jessops had an e-pL3 on display next to the older e-pL2, and he swore it was an e-P3 until I made him look up the prices. He had to get the boxes out to check.
                              I'm guessing head office actually sent their own shop the 'wrong' camera too!

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                              • #30
                                Re: EP2 or EP3

                                Originally posted by Ulfric M Douglas View Post
                                That doesn't surprise me a bit, I think the current 3 Pens are giving shop assistants a very hard time.
                                The bloke in Jessops had an e-pL3 on display next to the older e-pL2, and he swore it was an e-P3 until I made him look up the prices. He had to get the boxes out to check.
                                I'm guessing head office actually sent their own shop the 'wrong' camera too!
                                I had that, went in two Jessops; one had the ep3 and the other had the epl3, and the one with the epl3 swore it was a ep3 too!

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