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  • #16
    Re: E-M1X preview sessions

    Originally posted by 090657 View Post
    I was Tony.

    That was me who walked in just before you left then. You ordered the first one!

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    • #17
      Re: E-M1X preview sessions

      Visited Wex in Norwich, handled the EM1X fitted with the 40-150mm 2.8 pro lens. Visually, I wasn't stunned by the size of the camera, as I use my Em1 mk2
      almost permanently with the grip fitted. It's bigger but I'm comfortable with that.

      Considering the lens attached and two batteries on board, the weight didn't seem excessive but understand it could be a concern for some, found the bigger body handles it better. Size and quality of viewfinder is impressive, button layout and spacing makes it easy to control and camera starts up rapidly.

      I went to look at the EM1x because it's exactly the sort of camera that I'd personally feel comfortable with and would get great pleasure from using. Wasn't concerned how everything worked, will enjoy discovering that soon... my name's now on the pre-order list.


      Mark

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      • #18
        Re: E-M1X preview sessions

        Originally posted by TonyR View Post
        That was me who walked in just before you left then. You ordered the first one!

        So, what did you think about it? Did you order the second one?
        Andy
        bengeo.com

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        • #19
          Re: E-M1X preview sessions

          Originally posted by Bengeo View Post
          So, what did you think about it? Did you order the second one?

          Well, I thought the weight was okay whilst I was holding the body only. Then I thought it was a bit heavy once I'd attached the 300mm. it's 5.5 lbs vs 4.5lbs for the MkII and I did notice the difference.


          I concentrated on C-AF and spent some time in the street. I found the new 25-point AF area to be useful for birds in flight and the Centre Point Priority Setting looked like it would be useful. The results were very much like the MkII. i.e. some were sharp and some were soft. I put a sequence up a dpreview here.


          I like lots of the improvements to the camera like the joystick, general robustness, four custom sets, My Menu and operating speed. But without a major step up in C-AF performance, I don't think I'm going to be tempted.

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          • #20
            Re: E-M1X preview sessions

            Originally posted by TonyR View Post
            But without a major step up in C-AF performance, I don't think I'm going to be tempted.
            That's a shame, but at least you had good weather to try it out. Looking at your other thread you posted 15 images from that burst and it looks like a few were excellent, a few were OK,and some were soft. I wonder how a D500 or A9 would have done in the same circumstances.

            I see that you tried plane mode and that it didn't work for you. It seems that others have got it to work, but perhaps for bigger birds flying at them.
            Andy
            bengeo.com

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            • #21
              Re: E-M1X preview sessions

              EM1 mk2, I was never that comfortable with C-AF but S-AF couldn't fault, especially after they gave us the small AF point.
              After a lot of digging on the net, I understood it say that lens calibration affects C-AF and not S-AF

              After re-checking and calibrating as necessary, I noticed a definite improvement and now regularly use both settings. It would be one of the first things I check with a new camera.

              I noticed the instruction book for the EM1X doesn't just say you have AF Focus Adj,
              it actually tells you how to use it.... thank you Olympus !

              Mark

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              • #22
                Re: E-M1X preview sessions

                Originally posted by TonyR View Post
                That was me who walked in just before you left then. You ordered the first one!

                Ah hello!


                I suspect that you were interested in the camera for slightly different reasons than me. I do not own or intend to buy the 40-150 PRO or 300 PRO since I do not do sports or wildlife. I make do with the 75-300 for longer range stuff, mostly aircraft at airshows and trains. The 12-100 PRO covers most other things for me. So it was features such as the slightly better stabilisation, better a/f in low light, ND filter feature and hand held hi-res that attracted me. That said, before I reached the shop I was very firmly convinced that the thing would be too big and heavy for me. I do have rather small hands and have never used my MK2 with a battery grip.


                Picking up the EM1X therefore proved a shock as it felt comfortable with the 12-100 on board- the lens I use most of all these days. I was ok with it even carrying it in one hand. I got the same feeling I experienced two years ago when picking up the MK2 at the NEC- instant infatuation. I got the same reaction, perhaps even more so, when I picked up a Pen F a year ago. Difficult to explain but as photography is my main hobby in retirement these feelings are important to me.


                So, despite perhaps not really being the target audience for this camera, I have ordered it. I will part-ex my MK2 and perhaps one or two lenses that rarely get used. I am lucky enough to be in a position to afford the EM1X and do consider myself to be very lucky in that regard.


                I will of course post some pictures here asap.


                Tim

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                • #23
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                  Interesting to read Tim. One thing (a small thing) is an ungripped E-M1 Mk II (with 12-40 in my case) fits into my DC-439DL Kata shoulder bag whereas with a grip it won't & nor would an E-M1X. So how about your use? Will you be needing a different bag?
                  Ross
                  I fiddle with violins (when I'm not fiddling with a camera).
                  Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ross-the-fiddler/
                  Cameras: OM-D E-M1 & Mk II, Olympus Stylus 1, OM-D E-M5.
                  Lenses: M.ZD7-14mm f2.8 PRO Lens, M.ZD12-40mm f2.8 PRO Lens, M.ZD40-150mm f2.8 PRO Lens, MC-14, MC-20, M.ZD45mm f1.8, M.ZD12-50, M.ZD60 Macro, M.ZD75-300 Mk II, MMF-3, ZD14-54 II, Sigma 150mm F2.8 APO Macro DG HSM.
                  Flashes: FL36R X2, FL50R, FL50.
                  Software: Capture One Pro 10 (& Olympus Viewer 3).

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                  • #24
                    Re: E-M1X preview sessions

                    Originally posted by Ross the fiddler View Post
                    Interesting to read Tim. One thing (a small thing) is an ungripped E-M1 Mk II (with 12-40 in my case) fits into my DC-439DL Kata shoulder bag whereas with a grip it won't & nor would an E-M1X. So how about your use? Will you be needing a different bag?

                    Ross,


                    Ah bags.......do not get me started! I went through a phase with bags. Now I merely use `non specialist` shoulder bags that do not shout `expensive camera within`. I have a couple and swap around depending on what I am taking out. The one earmaked for the EM1X will need its dividers moving but will otherwise be fine and the other I use with a Caden protective box which easily fits the EM1X.


                    The 12-40 PRO that came with the MK2 deal is just too good to lose so I keep it for use with the Pen F mainly.


                    I would urge anyone, like me, who had doubts about the size and weight of the EM1X to get their hands on one and give it a try.



                    Tim

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                    • #25
                      Re: E-M1X preview sessions

                      Spoke to Carmarthen Cameras this AM, they don't even have a demo model in store yet....'nearer to release date' they said,

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                      • #26
                        Re: E-M1X preview sessions

                        With regards to tonyr,s test run with the EM1X until I am convinced of CAF & TR improvements or possibilities the mk2 will stay with me, but I will still try one for myself if the shop will let me adjust settings etc and go outside etc with it.

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                        • #27
                          Re: E-M1X preview sessions

                          Originally posted by bigsambwfc View Post
                          With regards to tonyr,s test run with the EM1X until I am convinced of CAF & TR improvements or possibilities the mk2 will stay with me, but I will still try one for myself if the shop will let me adjust settings etc and go outside etc with it.



                          The shop I attended were happy for you to use your own card, take shots and take it outside.


                          Tim

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                          • #28
                            Re: E-M1X preview sessions

                            I got to fondle one at LCE in Leamington today. First impressions:

                            - It's big compared to the unadorned E-M1ii
                            - It's pretty much the same size a gripped E-M1ii
                            - The 12-100 mounted on it makes the lens look compact!
                            - Some changes to the menus, but still very close to E-M1ii
                            - Body feel is good
                            - It feels extremely robust
                            - AF definitely has lots of feature improvements. Couldn't test CAF
                            - Joystick for moving focus point is great
                            - Hand held hi res work very well. I want it!
                            - Live ND works very well. I want it!
                            - EVF seems pretty much the same as the E-M1ii
                            - IQ/sensor performance seems pretty much the same as the E-M1ii

                            So, as I expected:

                            - I'd love to have the Live ND and hand-held hi-res features
                            - Other improvements don't mean much to me
                            - Size is too big for me - this is the single biggest issue in my view
                            - I'm sure with the bigger lenses when shooting wildlife it will be superb

                            Now I'm waiting for the E-M5iii release. If it's got Live ND and hand held hi-res then I'll be pre-ordering!
                            Paul
                            E-M1ii, Pen-F and too many lenses
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                            • #29
                              Re: E-M1X preview sessions

                              Originally posted by pdk42 View Post
                              ...Now I'm waiting for the E-M5iii release. If it's got Live ND and hand held hi-res then I'll be pre-ordering!
                              You've picked what I think are pretty processor intensive tasks but who knowns what might be in the next E-M5. I would like the CAF/SAF improvements (but I'll live without the AI bit if they can't shoehorn it in) and the little joystick.
                              Cameras: E-M5, E-PM2, OM40, OM4Ti
                              Lenses (M.Zuiko Digital): 7-14mm/F2.8, 12-40mm/F2.8, 40-150mm/F2.8+TC1.4x, 12-50mm/F3.5-6.3, 14-42mm/F3.5-5.6 EZ, M.ZD 40-150 F4-5.6 R, 75-300mm/F4.8-6.7 Mk1, 12mm/F2, 17mm/F1.8
                              Lenses (OM Zuiko): 50mm/F1.2, 24mm/F2, 35mm/F2.8 shift
                              Lenses (OM Fit): Vivitar Series II 28-105mm/F2.8-3.8, Sigma 21-35mm/F3.4-4.2, Sigma 35-70mm/F2.8-4, Sigma 75-200mm/F2.8-3.5, Vivitar Series II 100-500mm/F5.6-8.0, Centon 500mm/F8 Mirror
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                              • #30
                                Re: E-M1X preview sessions

                                Had a quick go with E-M1X with my p/l 100/400 lens, loads of features on it which I will never use like joystick focus moving. tried CAF could,nt see any difference to that on my mk2, but the potential is there no doubt. focus pattern making is good but should have been made touchscreen placeable, could not get a diagonal pattern though, the rep could,nt also.All in all I will wait to be convinced that it will do what I want for that dosh.

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