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  • Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

    So Oly made an E7 and have opted for the OMD-EM1 to be the replacement for the E5. The delay of 29ms in the EVF is significant. I tried panning with the EM1 and clearly noticed that delay in picture update. I don't know how significant that would be for me with panning bikes and birds.

    The jury is still out on the performance of FT lenses on the EM1. Is there anyone with an E5 who is impressed with FT performance on the EM1.

    The next big disappointment is the compatibly with those expensive accessories us FT owners have spent. Remote cable RM=CB1, wireless flash FL50R and infra red remote RM1 non of which I understand work on the OMD-EM1. Of course you cannot tether the EM1 either and the EM1 does not work with Olympus studio. If I have these wrong then please correct me.

    Does anybody know if there is a relationship between exposure of photocells to light and age. That is will the sensor degrade over time because it is more exposed to light and being permanently turn on.

    I am left feeling that if I buy into the OMD-EM1 I am effectively buying into a completely new system. It is not an upgrade to my E5.
    John

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    Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

    It's not a replacement for the E-M5. That is a current model which is a fair bit cheaper than the E-M1. The E-M1 is a flagship Micro Four Thirds camera. But it also happens to be a solution that Four Thirds camera users can seriously consider.

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    • #3
      Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

      You can tether an E-M1, and in a more sophisticated way than before, only you need to use an iOS or Android device rather than a PC. Olympus aren't promising it but they haven't said they won't do PC-tethering in the future.

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      • #4
        Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

        Originally posted by Ian View Post
        It's not a replacement for the E-M5. That is a current model which is a fair bit cheaper than the E-M1. The E-M1 is a flagship Micro Four Thirds camera. But it also happens to be a solution that Four Thirds camera users can seriously consider.

        Ian
        The question is would an E5 owner seriously consider it (of course they would) and buy it (time will tell)?

        I have not heard many comments from E5 owners with a good selection of FT glass give their views.
        John

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        • #5
          Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

          Originally posted by birdboy View Post
          The delay of 29ms in the EVF is significant. I tried panning with the EM1 and clearly noticed that delay in picture update. I don't know how significant that would be for me with panning bikes and birds.
          IMO EVF as currently available is unable to match OVF for subjects such as BIF. This is because the image in the viewfinder when using sequential shooting is presented as a series of stills rather than the actual moving image in an OVF. This makes it difficult to predict the direction of a bird's flight when panning. The other issue which I noticed on the E-M1 (and E-M5) is that when using the "L" burst rate the still images are interspersed by momentary blackouts, further degrading panning performance. This is particularly annoying as CAF is only available for all shots when using "L" on the E-M1. However there may be settings which can improve this - only time will tell!

          I am impressed with the AF using my Leica 14-150mm as it appears better in low light than on my E5.

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          • #6
            Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

            Thanks David I value your experience with this type of photography. I do agree with you on this point. I really cannot see an EVF competing with an OVF. In sports 1ms can be the difference between success and failure. I also understand the advantages of an EVF but still think they are in the early days. In some respects I am luckily in that I am reasonably happy with what I have got at the moment and do not want to go backwards.
            John

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            • #7
              Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

              Hi there
              I am an E-5 user of three years and have been exceedingly happy with its performance, particularly its OOC JPEGs (having previously been a RAW devotee!) except, that is, in low light conditions.
              I was 'tempted' by the OM-D E-M5, given the very positive feedback given by many users on this site.
              However, like many others with a significant investment in 4/3 lenses, I was waiting for the E-7!
              From what I now read the E-M1 is probably a better solution than an E-7, particularly if it allows me to continue to use my investment in 4/3 lenses, achieve results on a par with that of my E-5 and, importantly, allow me to take advantage of the many m4/3 benefits that will undoubtedly ensue!
              Somewhat tempted by the very attractive launch offers of free HLD-7 and MMF-3, I have now pre-ordered an E-M1 + 12-50 lens and tomorrow look forward to seeing one closeup, hopefully coupled to 4/3 glass and delivering great AF performance!
              Graham Jester

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              • #8
                Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

                Originally posted by birdboy View Post
                The question is would an E5 owner seriously consider it (of course they would) and buy it (time will tell)?

                I have not heard many comments from E5 owners with a good selection of FT glass give their views.
                I've got an E-3 and a good selection of FT glass. My order for the EM-1 is in. Where else am I to go?
                Last edited by bilbo; 14th September 2013, 07:50 AM. Reason: typo
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                • #9
                  Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

                  Given I only ever use single shot and manual focus for my bird/wildlife photography I don't know if the EVF will be a problem but I suspect not.
                  It's the image that's important, not the tools used to make it.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

                    Originally posted by birdboy View Post
                    So Oly made an E7
                    And for those wondering

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                    • #11
                      Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

                      If they did develop an E-7 it proves just how committed Olympus are to supporting their Four Thirds lens range, effectively having a ready-made contingency plan should they be unsuccessful in developing a MFT focusing solution in time. The fact that they did not feel the need to launch the E-7 is testamony to their confidence that the E-M1 provides a suitable solution.
                      John

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

                        Originally posted by bilbo View Post
                        I've got an E-3 and a good section of FT glass. My order for the EM-1 is in. Where else am I to go?
                        There is nowhere else for us to go if we want to carry on using our 43rds glass.
                        Dave

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

                          I really wanted to go down the EM-1 route but still have the concerns re BIF especially panning. I used a friends GH2 shortly this week for a Harris hawk flying over a lake and really find the EVF a nightmare to use to follow birds when shooting. I know the Oly's EVF is better but any loss of sight is the shot gone.

                          So I think I will wait a bit and see how others get on before deciding which way to go

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                          • #14
                            Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

                            Originally posted by birdboy View Post
                            ............The next big disappointment is the compatibly with those expensive accessories us FT owners have spent. Remote cable RM=CB1, wireless flash FL50R and infra red remote RM1 non of which I understand work on the OMD-EM1. Of course you cannot tether the EM1 either and the EM1 does not work with Olympus studio. If I have these wrong then please correct me.............
                            The FL50R shouldn't be a disappointment as it works quite well on & off the hotshoe in RC mode with the E-M5 & should also on the E-M1 with greater power than the FL600. The only part that doesn't operate on the E-M5 is the infrared focus assist part of it & it would be nice if it was optional on the E-M1 instead of the in-body focus assist light.
                            Ross
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                            • #15
                              Re: Is the OMD-EM1 a replacement for the E5 or the OMD-EM5?

                              Originally posted by Ross the fiddler View Post
                              The FL50R shouldn't be a disappointment as it works quite well on & off the hotshoe in RC mode with the E-M5 & should also on the E-M1 with greater power than the FL600. The only part that doesn't operate on the E-M5 is the infrared focus assist part of it & it would be nice if it was optional on the E-M1 instead of the in-body focus assist light.
                              Ian - I'd be interested to know how the FL-50R is supported by the new camera please.

                              Thanks
                              Brian
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