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  • #16
    Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

    And here's another with the Canon - a Crag Martin:



    With these birds having the camera set to H burst rate does give you a chance of getting more than one shot, with L the bird would be long gone before the shutter fired again.

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    • #17
      Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

      It should be pointed out that David's Canon 7D remains the only reasonably affordable Canon that can do BIF well.

      David, what frame rate do you get in continuous AF mode?

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      • #18
        Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

        My recent attempts at BIF. Taken with EM5 and 75-300 lens on River Thames





        ...and one that got away



        The following was taken on Farne Islands

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        • #19
          Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

          Super shots once again, Shirley - proving that while not as easy as a DSLR, the E-M5 is capable of BIF

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          • #20
            Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

            A better explanation of why PDAF is better than CDAF for birds is that PDAF can measure the approximate distance of a subject and so if the camera's AF system is smart enough it can concentrate on the closest subject it senses and ignore those that are more distant. A bird will usually be closer than the background.

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            • #21
              Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

              Originally posted by Ian View Post
              Super shots once again, Shirley - proving that while not as easy as a DSLR, the E-M5 is capable of BIF

              Ian
              ...sort of. The gulls were gliding, making it relatively easy, puffins on the Farne islands were impossible, I just have blurry blobs, the tern pic is OK but not really as sharp as I would like. So I suppose it depends on what you want. I do not specialise on wildlife photography so these are fine for me but may not be good enough if you want to compete or exhibit.
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              • #22
                Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                The only decent (and rather fluky!) BIF shot I have, taken with an E1 and 14-54:

                GX7, EP3, 9-18, 14-45, 45-150, 20 1.7, 25 1.4, 45 1.8, FL36 & various OM glass. flickr

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                • #23
                  Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                  Originally posted by David M View Post
                  Having had a manually focused shot of a Common Swift in flight published in a mag 20 years ago I've never understood all the fuss about birds in flight.
                  I have tried Swifts & Swallows this summer and need more time to observe their flight patterns and more LENS

                  I had the ideal opportunity last week, the Garage phoned to say they have another nest at 6ft off the ground in their thatched roof ... GREAT you think ? ... nah! backdrop is either Thatch old and dark with wire over or dark blue walls
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                  • #24
                    Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                    Here is a close one ... Keeper Rate for Red Kites at Henley with 50-200 6 of 10 - with 300 lens 8 of 10

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                    • #25
                      Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                      Here is a keeper rate of 1 in 200 - but I only had 30 mins to observe and it is more a grabshot lucky though


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                      • #26
                        Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                        This was a lucky, being in the right place, having the kit on ready and a fast eye to catch it






                        Trispacial coordination skills -

                        ... as for Tennis - hand - eye - ball

                        ... for Bif - hand/camera - eye - Bif

                        ... for Golf - hand/Club - eye - ball

                        ... for Slalom G ski racing - feet/skies - eye - terrain

                        ... for showjumping - hands/legs/seat on horse - eye - course

                        and FAST, very FAST acting human - because without this element the action is missed
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                        • #27
                          Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                          Just as an aside, if folks are struggling with the E-M5, take heart and get more practice, and I guess expect a lower keeper rate.
                          I must admit my number of saved shots was quite (exeedingly) low, but this one was taken with a little Ricoh GX200.
                          It's a great point and shoot with a high quality lens, but does suffer from a bit of shutter delay, which makes panning rather tricky to say the least.
                          Sunset in Essaouira, Morocco.


                          Gulls at Sunset by peak4, on Flickr

                          I'm still not sure if I should have cloned out some of the distant birds.
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                          • #28
                            Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                            Originally posted by peak4 View Post
                            Just as an aside, if folks are struggling with the E-M5, take heart and get more practice, and I guess expect a lower keeper rate.
                            I must admit my number of saved shots was quite (exeedingly) low, but this one was taken with a little Ricoh GX200.
                            It's a great point and shoot with a high quality lens, but does suffer from a bit of shutter delay, which makes panning rather tricky to say the least.
                            Sunset in Essaouira, Morocco.


                            Gulls at Sunset by peak4, on Flickr

                            I'm still not sure if I should have cloned out some of the distant birds.
                            Hi Bill, that's a cracking shot, from a compact too! I like the inclusion of the distant birds, they add depth to the picture.
                            John

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                            • #29
                              Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                              Originally posted by Ian View Post
                              Nice pix Chevvy although rather large for online viewing; I can't see the whole image on my laptop screen. 800-900 pixels wide or 700 tall is what I recommend.

                              So what are your tips for favourable keeper rates?

                              Ian
                              As you know, I am viewing anik for their CAF with focus lock - if this were not so useful (albeit, not essential) for Birds in Flight then those cameras would not have sold so high in volume to Bif Togs

                              Thus, the icing on the cake, for me would be PDAF and a lighter version of the 90-250 (the current 90-250 and 300 are terrific shg BUT so heavy and Bif are mostly handheld, whilst I am happy with the E-5 and not needing a lighter OM-D EM-5 yet I am not into weight training with 3Kg of SHG as it is sooo unbalanced

                              I do wonder if the ? 75-300 m4/3 lens would work with the E-5 but I think there is a tech reason thats a no-no ??? Ian can you help me there ? please
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                              • #30
                                Re: One thing many existing Olympus users expect from the new camera - BIF!

                                Originally posted by Zuiko View Post
                                Hi Bill, that's a cracking shot, from a compact too! I like the inclusion of the distant birds, they add depth to the picture.
                                I agree with John, lovely shot, I would probably lighten the bird just a tad to bring out a bit more detail and deintely keep the background birds.
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