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  • #31
    Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

    Originally posted by Ricoh View Post
    Part of the problem is in the inability to write an unambiguous requirement specifications, enter Rational Rhapsody based on UML, using graphical models.
    Ah yes. Requirements capture and speccing. That along with unrealistic cost estimates due to the sales team wanting to keep the price appearing low are, I would suggest from my experience, the two most common reasons for IT project problems or indeed failures.

    Major projects typically are specified by a management team as opposed to the people who will use them and therefore when a beta is delivered for test it doesn't work as needed. I would suggest that the problems with NHS projects are caused by this along with unrealistic timescales.

    Anyway we are getting off topic so apologies.

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    • #32
      Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

      Just experienced the lock up too! Was shooting in Silent Low with the 300 f4 and it locked after a short burst. Only remedy was battery out.
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      • #33
        Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

        Beginning to look like an EM1 MkII problem with the differing lenses.

        Regards

        Chris

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        • #34
          Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

          Originally posted by Grumpy Hec View Post
          Ah yes. Requirements capture and speccing. That along with unrealistic cost estimates due to the sales team wanting to keep the price appearing low are, I would suggest from my experience, the two most common reasons for IT project problems or indeed failures.

          Major projects typically are specified by a management team as opposed to the people who will use them and therefore when a beta is delivered for test it doesn't work as needed. I would suggest that the problems with NHS projects are caused by this along with unrealistic timescales.

          Anyway we are getting off topic so apologies.

          Hec
          I can see you've experienced the same methodology. Spec writing is a highly skilled task, and it's vital to have reviews at various levels prior to release to the designers. The often forgotten requirements are the ones that ask the question, what should it do if X happens, ie the unexpected. The easy thing is to define what should happen in an orderly progression of events. If you want to cut development costs, do it right.
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          • #35
            Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

            I reported the problem direct to Olympus and had an email back this am asking for further info. If you have had the problem then I encourage you to report it via your myolympus account.
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            • #36
              Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

              Olympus current thinking appear to be that it only occurs when you use a memory card that has not been formatted in the camera first. If this is not the case for you then shout!
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              • #37
                Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                While I can't swear that I formatted the two cards in the camera, that is my normal practice. I either formatted or erased them in-camera. Neither were UHS-II cards.
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                • #38
                  Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                  Hi Bassman, welcome to the forum!

                  Do send a message to Olympus to tell them what happened, it will help them out and you may get a voucher!
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                  • #39
                    Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                    Originally posted by Beagletorque View Post
                    Olympus current thinking appear to be that it only occurs when you use a memory card that has not been formatted in the camera first. If this is not the case for you then shout!
                    I had a new lexar 64GB 2000x UHS-II in slot 1, was shooting from slot 1 and had formatted the card in slot 1. I am thinking that as there are 2 processors in this camera it is only affecting one, thats why I was able to scroll around the menus. It would be interesting to know which processor is doing which functions. I have not reported my incident yet as I am expecting to repeat the lockup in which I will collect as much data as I can at the time.
                    John

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                    • #40
                      Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                      What further information are you expecting to collect, John? I would have thought that the EXIF in the last shot before it locked up will have all the settings info, and you should have that already. With previous lockups with the mark I it can lock up at any time, not just when trying to take a shot or writing it to the card.

                      John

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                      • #41
                        Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                        Originally posted by Bikie John View Post
                        What further information are you expecting to collect, John? I would have thought that the EXIF in the last shot before it locked up will have all the settings info, and you should have that already. With previous lockups with the mark I it can lock up at any time, not just when trying to take a shot or writing it to the card.

                        John
                        I never found with the EM1 lockups that the exif provided help as to what was causing the problems, because it was not identified with any particular setting. From the early reports the MKII lockups seems to be going the same way. When the lockups happens I often find myself in the middle of something I cannot breakaway from, I just want the camera back working. What it requires is one to make as many detailed notes about the sequence of button presses and now that we have a setting with a good guide on battery condition is to make a proper note of that value, something I forgot to do with my lockup.

                        I do find it odd that with all the testing the experts had with this model nobody reported any lockups and yet a week into joe public having them the lockups starts. It maybe that the experts all had the benefit of an Olympus expert to help and guide them when something unexplained happened.
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                        • #42
                          Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                          Originally posted by birdboy View Post

                          I do find it odd that with all the testing the experts had with this model nobody reported any lockups and yet a week into joe public having them the lockups starts. It maybe that the experts all had the benefit of an Olympus expert to help and guide them when something unexplained happened.
                          I concur (entry no 23 of thread) Quite a simple problem a full lock up needing the removal of battery to re-instate camera. I think the em1mk2 will be on a firmware update before too long? Along with maybe the new 12-100f4 hopefully I will be wrong. Just not good enough Olympus.
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                          • #43
                            Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                            with the EM-1 lock-ups I found that when I checked the camera settings they had reverted to the previous state before the lock-up. it appeared that changing the settings I was using seemed to have locked the programme somehow, so it reverted to the previous "safe" condition

                            It may be interesting to see if something similar is happening here?

                            (no lock up yet for me)

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                            • #44
                              Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                              I think it is simpler than that, Brian. Nothing to do with "safe" settings - if you change the settings they will take effect, but are not committed to the camera's memory until you switch off. If the camera dies in flight for some reason the changed settings don't get saved, and when you switch it back on it will revert to the settings it had last time you switched it on.

                              John

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                              • #45
                                Re: EM1 MKII Lock Up

                                You guys should bite the bullet and go for W10, that should sort it
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