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  • #31
    Re: Olympus Air A01

    Originally posted by MikeOxon View Post
    I find that no one profile suits all. A lot depends on the subject and I usually find I have to do some tweaking to make the image match my perception of the original scene. One advantage of digital is that I find I can still 'feel' the original scene, when I make the adjustments later the same day.
    Many of my pictures seem too hazy, when it felt like a crisp clear day. I will also take a picture with my Cell phone next time to compare color and feel.


    I was assuming "image quality" only applies to the jpeg image and not the raw image, so I had that set it to "basic", expecting to get best quality from the raw file.

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    • #32
      Re: Olympus Air A01

      Originally posted by Angelica View Post
      I was assuming "image quality" only applies to the jpeg image and not the raw image, so I had that set it to "basic", expecting to get best quality from the raw file.

      Yup the ORF file will have everything the sensor saw on it, the other options affect the camera produced JPG.


      Olympus Viewer and it's replacement Olympus Workspace are worth a look as they include the built in Olympus profiles. So you can process the ORF using the Olympus default then play from there. The downloads are free, OW needs a valid serial number and you'd need to check they're supporting your Air - though I can't think why they wouldn't as it's the same sensor as the other contemporary cameras.

      Be warned though - they can be a lot slower than some other processing programs.


      Just out of curiosity - you said the Air app doesn't have a self timer - have you checked if the Olympus Image Share app for the later cameras works?
      https://www.flickr.com/photos/amcuk/

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      • #33
        Re: Olympus Air A01

        Originally posted by Angelica View Post
        It does focus on where I touch and I'm pretty sure I touched on Lucy's (the dog) head, yet judging by the focus on the sand I agree it's definitely not there. It was still quite dark and this picture is 1/4s exposure f/1.8 with ISO-800. Perhaps the camera struggles to do it's auto-focus thing in poor light?
        Yes, you have pinpointed the problem - that's very dark for the AF to work reliably.

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        • #34
          Re: Olympus Air A01

          Here's my take on your dog image:



          I also used Rawtherapee. I adjusted the exposure until the highlights were almost clipping and the shadows until they were almost blocked. I also sharpened using the default setting. The colour balance looks about right as the greys of the cliff look neutral, so I didn't alter it.

          I did this on my uncalibrated laptop, so it might look different to others. Having done it, it doesn't look much better than yours!

          Jim

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          • #35
            Re: Olympus Air A01

            Originally posted by peak4 View Post
            A bit like this you mean?
            An old Soviet Zenit Fotosnaiper gunstock, with a home made Arca style clamp; seen here fitted with an E-M1 Mk2. 300mm F4 and a Red Dot Sight.
            I never did have the 300mm Tair lens and modified Zenit B, but bought the gunstock as an ebay item on its own; The modified body had an extra shutter release on the base, set off by a little finger sticking upwards, and coupled internally to the trigger.

            The kit is intended for Bird in Flight attempts, but since I've completed it, I've never been at a suitable venue, whilst having it with me.





            Unfortunately, the E-M1 Mk2 has a deeper grip, so won't fit in the space available. Mk1 fits fine with the grip.

            The trigger now, is internally coupled to a pair of contacts from an old relay, but I need to do more work on that, as there isn't enough feedback on the trigger from half to full press.
            If you want one of these you are lucky one is available

            https://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Zeni...dy_247827.html
            OMD E-M1 OMD E-M5II MMF3 12-40 pro 12-50 EZ 14-42 EZ 9-18 f4.0 -5.6 40 -150f4-f5.6 R 60mm f2.8 macro Sigma 105 f2.8 macro Holga 60mm plastic Holga pinhole lens lens and a XZ-1 Olympus - 35 SP Trip 35 Pen EEs OM2sp

            I nice view does not mean a good photograph. My FLickr

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            • #36
              Re: Olympus Air A01

              Originally posted by alfbranch View Post
              If you want one of these you are lucky one is available

              https://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Zeni...dy_247827.html
              I see fotodiox even do an adapter to Nikon F mount and they also have an F mount to MFT adapter... so I just need to find out if London Camera Exchange will export it!

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              • #37
                Re: Olympus Air A01

                Originally posted by Jim Ford View Post
                Here's my take on your dog image:



                I also used Rawtherapee. I adjusted the exposure until the highlights were almost clipping and the shadows until they were almost blocked. I also sharpened using the default setting. The colour balance looks about right as the greys of the cliff look neutral, so I didn't alter it.

                I did this on my uncalibrated laptop, so it might look different to others. Having done it, it doesn't look much better than yours!

                Jim

                Thanks it's really appreciated! There is definitely something weird going on with the colors from rawtherapee, as the "basic jpeg" from the camera looks much better than anything I can coax out of the ORF! Here is yours against the one from the OlyAir.




                see how the colors of the jpeg are so much more vivid!


                I haven't had time yet to install and look at the Olympus raw processing software and I don't have Adobe license for lightroom, but there is definitely something I'm missing here.


                I really want to be able to make the most of raw images as there is so much more one can do in post processing them. Meanwhile I have found a more recent release of OA-central that includes features like a timer and better control of the camera settings (Google is blocking the official releases as "not available in your country")... these versions may help me take better pictures

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                • #38
                  Re: Olympus Air A01

                  Originally posted by Jim Ford View Post
                  ... I also used Rawtherapee...

                  Update: I just installed the latest (2019-09-10) release of Rawtherapee (version 5.7) and the issue has been fixed, so it's not the camera. It might be worth you checking which version you are using and updating if it affects your pictures too!
                  Here is the render of the same raw file with no processing profiles applied:

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                  • #39
                    Re: Olympus Air A01

                    I usually use Phase One Capture One Pro for my post processing and take all of my photos in raw format. However, COP wouldn't recognise the Olympus Air A01 raw file and so I reverted to Olympus Workspace. This is the best I could manage, changing the Picture Mode to "Vivid":


                    Larry

                    Cameras: Olympus OM-D E-M1 II, Olympus OM-D E-M1 | Flash: Olympus FL-50R
                    Lenses: Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO, Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 12-100mm f/4.0 IS PRO, Olympus MMF-3 adaptor, Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 12-60mm f2.8-4.0 SWD, Olympus Zuiko Digital 14-45mm 1:3.5-5.6, Olympus Zuiko Digital 40-150mm 1:3.5-4.5, Olympus Zuiko Digital 70-300mm 1:4-5.6, Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm f4.0-6.3 ASPH

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                    • #40
                      Re: Olympus Air A01

                      It's easy enough to increase the saturation or vividness using Photoshop, Faststone or Rawtherapee, but as I've been looking at imagemagick recently:

                      https://imagemagick.org

                      and the scripts from here:

                      http://www.fmwconcepts.com/imagemagick/index.php

                      I thought that I'd do a 'quick and dirty' adjustment to increase the vibrance, using:

                      vibrance2 -a 1.2 dog.jpg dog2.jpg

                      which took 0.331 seconds

                      to produce this result:




                      If it's too vivid, it could be 'knocked back' a bit to (say) -a 1.15

                      Jim

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                      • #41
                        Re: Olympus Air A01

                        Originally posted by Angelica View Post
                        I see fotodiox even do an adapter to Nikon F mount and they also have an F mount to MFT adapter... so I just need to find out if London Camera Exchange will export it!
                        Angelica, don't forget I only used the gunstock part of the Photosniper with a 300mm F4 Olympus on an E-M1 , along with the red dot sight.

                        The original Zenith setup, is a non electronic 35mm film body, and as such the 300mm Russian Tair lens will only work in fully manual mode with an Olympus digital body. It's even more unusual than the conventional 300mm Tair in that the manual focus is controlled by the wheel underneath at the front.
                        That's manual focus, and manual stop down, though the Oly will still meter OK through the lens.
                        Best Regards
                        Bill

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                        • #42
                          Re: Olympus Air A01

                          Originally posted by peak4 View Post
                          Angelica, don't forget I only used the gunstock part of the Photosniper with a 300mm F4 Olympus on an E-M1 , along with the red dot sight.

                          The original Zenith setup, is a non electronic 35mm film body, and as such the 300mm Russian Tair lens will only work in fully manual mode with an Olympus digital body. It's even more unusual than the conventional 300mm Tair in that the manual focus is controlled by the wheel underneath at the front.
                          That's manual focus, and manual stop down, though the Oly will still meter OK through the lens.
                          It would indeed defeat the handy gun form not to have auto-focus... in anycase, after ordering the Panasonic 100-400mm (which still hasn't arrived) I'm going to be flat broke for a while, so... yeah I shall have to leave it for now.
                          Meanwhile I've been up against poor support of Oly products here in NZ. After all the hassle of actually getting a full version of OA.central past geo-restrictions, now their product registration web page for "other countries" gives a 404 and Olympus Workspace says it doesn't support my camera.


                          Gone are the days when antiques could still be used... digital software bit-rot eats them from the inside.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Olympus Air A01

                            Originally posted by Angelica View Post
                            Olympus Workspace says it doesn't support my camera.
                            Strange that! I processed that raw file from your camera using Olympus Workspace V1.1.0.
                            Larry

                            Cameras: Olympus OM-D E-M1 II, Olympus OM-D E-M1 | Flash: Olympus FL-50R
                            Lenses: Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO, Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 12-100mm f/4.0 IS PRO, Olympus MMF-3 adaptor, Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 12-60mm f2.8-4.0 SWD, Olympus Zuiko Digital 14-45mm 1:3.5-5.6, Olympus Zuiko Digital 40-150mm 1:3.5-4.5, Olympus Zuiko Digital 70-300mm 1:4-5.6, Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm f4.0-6.3 ASPH

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                            • #44
                              Re: Olympus Air A01

                              I find that photos which don't look 'sunny' can be improved by increasing the yellow saturation only. This avoids over-saturating other colours.
                              Mike
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                              • #45
                                Re: Olympus Air A01

                                Originally posted by griffljg View Post
                                Strange that! I processed that raw file from your camera using Olympus Workspace V1.1.0.
                                Eventually I got Olympus Workspace to work with my files, but not with the camera. It looks like that by default reproduces from the raw file, exactly what the camera had produced. Maybe workspace is a tiny bit sharper as I had not selected "finest" quality for the camera's jpeg, but that way I get consistent results. How does it compare with what I actually see... and the output from rawtherapee... that's what I'm looking at next but I already know I will have to calibrate my display for it to mean anything.

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