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Old 11th April 2010
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Filter for 12 -60

Hi Guys,

I have just purchased a 12 - 60 lens from a fellow forum member.
Can anyone advise on the best 72mm filter to slap on this lens for general protection. I assume that it would have to be of the slim fit type given the view on this lens.

All answers gratefully accepted.

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Re: Filter for 12 -60

Your better off leaving it as it is, UV protectors ruin the picture quality
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

I know it is probably a red card offence to butt into a thread like this but I recently had to sell my 12-60 (with a pro1 uv attached) - however I still have a 72mm pro1 circular polariser for sale in the small ads if you are interested!
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If you must use a "filter" just have a lens protector like the Hoya pro1, plain top quality optical glass. they are not cheap but also do not spoil the optical quality of a good lens.
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

I use a B&W KR1.5 filter on virtually all my lens,does not alter the optical quality one bit
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

I don't use filters for protection any more, as mentioned above, they degrade the image quality. Every lens comes with a cap to protect it, that's what it's for. I always leave the lens hood on when in use to help protect from any knocks.

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Re: Filter for 12 -60

I always use a UV filter on all my lenses - to the point that I leave all my lens caps (pain in the ass they are) in a bag at home at all times.

I've never found they degraded my images in any way at all, but on saying that, I am also not anal enough to pixel peep with/without images to see if there is perhaps a tiny something, somewhere, sometimes, due to using them...

Better using one than scratching the glass on a £700 lens... I also wouldn't think it necessary to use the ultra-slim type of filter on the 12-60mm, but maybe someone who actually has one will know better? I never had to use ultra-slim on my Sigma 10-20mm, so can't see your lens being a problem...
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

Yup I use the Hoya pro UV.
Its surprising how much muck gets onto a lens.
I also carry a Spudz cloth at all times for lenses including my specs.
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

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Better using one than scratching the glass on a £700 lens..
That`s just the point! why spend £700 on a bit of glass & then put a £50 bit of glass in front of it If Olympus intended people to use protectors, then I am sure they would manufacture them.
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

Thanks for your response James - however I am the camp that fits a filter.
I doesn't take much to scratch a lens at the best of times.

Replace cost = £700+ or replace cost = £50 - surely it's a no brainer in anyones books.
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

I'm of the view that lens caps and hoods are the best way to protect your lenses - that's what they're designed for after all - and filters are best for, well, filtering. Anything between the lens and the subject introduces a risk of lens flare, however minimal. There are also those who believe that if you do drop a lens with a glass filter attached then broken glass from said filter is more likely to scratch the lens than the fall. In thirty years of serious photography I've never used a filter (well, did once try a friend's polariser) and never had a scratched lens. But I ALWAYS have a lens hood attached when shooting.
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

Just to lighten things up I've just remembered reading this last year in a guide written by an "award winning wedding photographer" (his words, not mine):

A word on Skylight UV filters

I often hear people say ‘put a skylight (clear) filter on the lens
to protect it’. Well have you ever noticed all those beautiful
colours that swirl about on the lens’ surface when viewed
from an angle? Those rare earth coatings and the precision
with which the lens was ground make it as optically perfect as
possible. And when you buy a big name manufacturer’s lens,
that’s a large part of what you just forked out £350 or more
for. Seems daft to me to spend all that money then go and
plonk a bit of glass in front of it!


But also – what are you protecting it from exactly? Being raked
by tigers perhaps, or maybe you’re the kind of person to acciden-
tally leave it on the workshop bench whilst welding something?
Yeah I know I’m being sarcastic but honestly, protect it from
what? If you drop the thing onto the pavement then there’s not
much chance it’ll survive annihilation no matter how many protec-
tive filters you have, you’ll just have to go and get another one.

Quality lenses are surprisingly robust bits of kit and won’t scratch
easily if you use a bit of common sense ie if you’ve got sand on it
blow it off before rubbing it with a cloth. Just use a bit of care and
it’ll be completely safe.

And anyway – you’ve got a lens hood on all your lenses right?
Trust me, I’m the clumsiest most trip-over it sort of person you’ll
ever meet, and in 20 years I’ve never scratched a lens.

However, the day after writing this very paragraph, I was photographing a wedding and had a camera fall lens first from a tripod onto a gravel car park, and guess what? Not a scratch on the glass because the lens hood protected it. The focus ring was trashed, but because it’s a good quality N***on lens it’s completely repairable.
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

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If Olympus intended people to use protectors, then I am sure they would manufacture them.
They did at one time. I have some 49mm Olympus UV filters from 35mm days. It amazes me Oly don't still sell them. The fanboys would instantly conclude they enabled better colour rendering or somesuch and buy them in bulk...

Having said that, after nearly 40 years of religiously using a protective filter, I have come round to the view that UV or "lens protector" filters are only of use in limited circumstances and I no longer have them on all my lenses as default since I have seen evidence of flare with them on.

However, if I go near the sea, or out in fog or anywhere where there may be crud or wet stuff flying around, the filter goes back on.

As to filter depth, I don't have the 12-60, but a standard depth Hoya causes no vignetting on the 11-22 that I've seen.
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Re: Filter for 12 -60

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I'm of the view that lens caps and hoods are the best way to protect your lenses - that's what they're designed for after all - and filters are best for, well, filtering. Anything between the lens and the subject introduces a risk of lens flare, however minimal. There are also those who believe that if you do drop a lens with a glass filter attached then broken glass from said filter is more likely to scratch the lens than the fall. In thirty years of serious photography I've never used a filter (well, did once try a friend's polariser) and never had a scratched lens. But I ALWAYS have a lens hood attached when shooting.
Agree totally. I take the cap off, take a photo and put the cap back on. The cap is more likely to do a better job of protecting the lens than a glass filter that is going to shatter and possibly do more damage.

I just don't see how a filter protects a lens.

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Re: Filter for 12 -60

Well if one of the 'it destroys the quality' mob can post some with and without images showing me the damage it does to my pictures, I'll happily never use one again... I won't hold my breath waiting in case I die though...
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