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Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

My other half has just bought a new Mazda 2 to replace her Mini Cooper. It seems to be a lovely little car and is very well equipped with one glaring omission. In common with many new cars Mazda has done away with the full size spare wheel and replaced it with an 'Emergency Flat Tyre Repair Kit' (a can of foam and an air pump.)

A space saver wheel kit is available but it costs around 400! The wheel well is not deep enough to take a full size spare. All my cars have had spare wheels and I have no experience of these kits but I have not heard many good things about them. As she often has to attend meetings in the evenings and spends a fair amount of time driving on her own, I am worried what will happen if she has a puncture. I assume she will have to call Mazda Assist and get them to take the car to a tyre repair shop or call out a mobile fitter at considerable expense. Her Mini had runflat tyres and, although they were extremely expensive and gave a hard ride, they did their job on the occasion when she had a puncture.

So, has anybody had personal experience of these repair kits and, if so, what happened when you had a puncture. Did it work? Could the tyre be repaired afterwards or was it a write off? If it didn't work how was the problem resolved.

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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

Interesting. All the cars we've owned to date have had spare fullsize or spacesaver spares or runflats, but that's certainly something to be aware of for the future.

Still, I haven't had a puncture myself for (digits crossed) around 20 years.

The last tyre I changed in anger was on my daughter's Yaris, which had a spacesaver.
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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

Yes, they work...it does take a get of being used to from a psychological perspective (not having a physical spare wheel!). Having owned many BMW's, this has been the case for a number of years, unless you go for bigger wheels, then you have run-flat tyres.

The kit is not a miracle worker, it is intended to seal (if possible) and enable re-inflation in order for you to get to a garage. This is the same principle as run-flat tyres, as in if they have a puncture or lose pressure rapidly, they are designed to get you to a garage at a safe minimum speed. I have used a tyre inflation kit twice and both times was a simple process and did the job.

All of this goes south if, of course, you have more than one puncture/deflated tyre at once...but there is no work around for that no matter what you have (spare tyre, tyre inflation kit)!

In terms of having the tyre repaired, that's all down to where the issue is on the tyre...the "goo" will make no difference to repairability.

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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

Thanks Steve, that is quite encouraging. When I asked about it at the dealership they told me that they are not as bad as people say, within their limitations. I suppose if she does have a puncture her best course of action would be to call Mazda Assist and see what they suggest. Roadside assistance companies are normally very good when it is an unaccompanied woman.

I would still prefer a spare wheel but I suppose the manufacturers have to reduce weight to meet those critical emission ratings.

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I would still prefer a spare wheel but I suppose the manufacturers have to reduce weight to meet those critical emission ratings.
Haha...of course, the other cynical element is that there is a cost to replacing the inflation foam/goo if used. I'm sure the cost varies wildly dependant on the manufacturer.
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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

Ring a breakers and purchase a space saver a lot of repair shop will not repair after goo is used. If the side walls are damaged goo may not work away. You car has the space so get a space saver at a sensible price if you can.

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All of this goes south if, of course, you have more than one puncture/deflated tyre at once...but there is no work around for that no matter what you have (spare tyre, tyre inflation kit)!
That's the one area where runflats help, of course!

The Bridgestone Potenza RE050 runflats that used to be specified on most upper-range BMWs feel like driving on solid indiarubber, but I recently replaced all 4 of mine with the latest S001 Potenza series and they are a lot more forgiving and were actually cheaper than the old design.
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That's the one area where runflats help, of course!
Absolutely...the downside though is finding a garage with appropriate stock levels of the tyre should it need replacing. I had different sized 19" tyres on my previous 3-series and it was a royal PITA to try and get the rear tyres replaced (thankfully it was a company car so in the end had a mobile van come and fit like for like - they were P-Zero's).

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The Bridgestone Potenza RE050 runflats that used to be specified on most upper-range BMWs feel like driving on solid indiarubber, but I recently replaced all 4 of mine with the latest S001 Potenza series and they are a lot more forgiving and were actually cheaper than the old design.
Yes, it's a bit of a lottery as to what you tyres get given when BMW ship a new car...I've been relatively lucky with the run-flats I've had; that said, I've had some terrible ones - noisy, increased tramlining in less than perfect conditions...awful.
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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

In my opinion

OK if you have something like a Nail in the center of the tyre tread
Totally ***** useless if you have a tear in the tyre on the edge or sidewall

I've had both types of events so a full sized spare was a key factor in my new car choice

I did use one of those kits on a motorbike once, it got me home, but cleaning up to do the repair was a mess as others have said

I agree with others. Ring the breakers or e-bay if you want peace of mind

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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

The Mazda 6 we recently acquired had no spare and a instead an electric pump and tyre inflation fluid. Happily, I found - by chance - someone local to me selling the exact same alloy wheel, with a tyre, that I needed and all for 45. Our Mazda has tyre pressure monitoring (TPMS) and dread to think how the sensor on inside the tyre would react to the emergency inflation fluid!

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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

For the motorbikes, kit car and Discovery, I've used Puncturesafe as a deflation preventative.
Available off ebay of from bricks and mortar dealers.
Does it work? I don't know as I've not noticed any punctures, so either I've not had one, or it's self sealed it.
Certainly I've not noticed any adverse effects, though it makes it even more important to visually inspect your tyres regularly to make sure there's no screws or nails in the tread.

There are a number of other makes out there, so make sure you do your own research before you commit to any particular one.
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The Mazda 6 we recently acquired had no spare and a instead an electric pump and tyre inflation fluid. Happily, I found - by chance - someone local to me selling the exact same alloy wheel, with a tyre, that I needed and all for 45. Our Mazda has tyre pressure monitoring (TPMS) and dread to think how the sensor on inside the tyre would react to the emergency inflation fluid!

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That would be a nice solution. The genuine Mazda alloys which are fitted to the car are 'only' 90, which is a lot cheaper than the 400 which the space saver kit costs. Unfortunately, the tyre well is not deep enough to take a full size wheel and I don't think Lynn would appreciate having the boot floor mat bulging up on her lovely new car. We would also need to get a suitable jack and tools, although they could probably sourced from a car breakers.

Regarding the TPMS, I am not sure but I don't think it uses sensors in the wheel on the Mazda 2. I think it is something to do with the ABS sensors monitoring the revolutions of the wheels to check if one is rotating faster than the others. I could be wrong though.

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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

Even if you do not have any punctures the "goo" has a limited shelf life so you have to periodically replaced the can of goo regardless of whether you have puncture.

Re installing temporary wheels, I call out the AA/RAC/coloured Flag service to do the heavy lifting, they will have proper jacks to lift the car and strong arms to undo and tighten up the wheel nuts. Plus they will have the local knowledge of the nearest tyre shop to go to to get the tyre fixed or replaced
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Re: Any experiences with emergency tyre repair kits?

I've had to use one of these kits once. The tyre was a write off because of sidewall damage...and the salt in the wound was the additional 60 to replenish the kit.
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Even if you do not have any punctures the "goo" has a limited shelf life so you have to periodically replaced the can of goo regardless of whether you have puncture.

Re installing temporary wheels, I call out the AA/RAC/coloured Flag service to do the heavy lifting, they will have proper jacks to lift the car and strong arms to undo and tighten up the wheel nuts. Plus they will have the local knowledge of the nearest tyre shop to go to to get the tyre fixed or replaced
Yeah, we have a good ad for that here with NRMA.
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