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Re: Technical perfection doesn't truly matter

For anyone still interested in the original statement, perhaps the contents of this link will strike a chord.

http://blog.alexschneideman.net/on-p...aphy-magazine/

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Re: Technical perfection doesn't truly matter

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For anyone still interested in the original statement, perhaps the contents of this link will strike a chord.

http://blog.alexschneideman.net/on-p...aphy-magazine/

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David,

Thanks for posting.

The mention of an artist in his argument suggests a split. Assuming the artist to be professional, the image will have to sell and so must appeal to prospective buyers. An amateur photographer might enjoy praise for his image but, in its absence, will probably still have the same appreciation of his mage.

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Re: Technical perfection doesn't truly matter

Ernst Haas once said, “The camera doesn’t make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE.”
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Getting back to the original question:

Where is the image created? Is it in the mind of the photographer prior to framing? Is it in the viewfinder? Is it in PP? Probably a blend/combination. It could be that what the photographer intended never existed and never will but at least the flavour of it may be the end result.
Speaking for myself I would say that in 99% of cases the image geminates 'in the mind of the photographer'.

We usually set out with some idea of how the final image should look, and what it should include. Personally I find that choosing what to exclude is far more difficult, especially when it comes to landscapes. Give me an ultra wide angle lens and my first instinct will be to try to cram everything in; it is only later that I see the error of my ways and crop out what I don't want.

There is also the challenge of excluding unwanted and distracting objects from the scene.

Just occasionally I take a photograph that shows something unexpected, but that is the exception rather than the rule.

I am often disappointed by what I see when the image materialises, (whether from film or digital), possibly because it doesn't match up to my expectations at the time, but stumbling on my old images I am often impressed by them!


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It used to be/still is a sign of a pro at weddings, etc. that they use a medium format camera with a waist-level VF.

Part of the creation of the image is (e.g. landscape) is chosing the season/weather/time of day/night/.

Yes; I much prefer using medium format with a waist level finder for composition, although I would concede that the EVF on my EM1 and EM5 cameras provides many practical advantages.

One of the greatest disadvantages of a WLF is the lack of metering on most MF cameras, although this provides a perfect opportunity to use a hand-held meter.

I was lucky enough to find a metered WLF Loupe for my Mamiya RZ a few weeks ago, so I am keen to try that out in the wild. I just need a few weightlifting lessons first.
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Give me an ultra wide angle lens and my first instinct will be to try to cram everything in.
If you paid good money for that lens, you want to get the full value.

Actually, I find an images of approaching 3:1 panoramic, with interest at around 1/3 & 2/3 works very well.

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Re: Technical perfection doesn't truly matter

Watching a YouTube video, 'One roll of film' I think it was called, a small bunch or togs set about taking just 12 images each using 120 with medium format cams. They most definitely couldn't trigger for a 'might be good' type of photo, they had to think long and hard with the aim of capturing 12 keepers. So 99% is an appropriate figure if discipline is firmly switched on. I actually don't see any problem using a hand held meters, for one reason it teaches the user how to interpret exposure. But each to their own, many didital togs believe the histogram or the way the little inbuilt TV screen looks and trust the camera knows best.
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Re: Technical perfection doesn't truly matter

I have an old lighting book from 1996 in which quotes photographer Jeff Procopowicz: "a great picture which is technically great is a great picture, and a great picture that is technically flawed is still a great picture, too"

I agree with that.
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