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Akureyri 1

Some views from Akureyri in N Iceland, th second city, population 10,000. About 35 miles south of the Arctic Circle.

Looking north from the quayside, up the fjord:

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And in colour, slightly different view:

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Akureyri's Whale Tail sculpture. Plenty of whales in the sea north of Akureyri, popular place to go whaling watching from.

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Same view, in monochrome:

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Re: Akureyri 1

Keith the colour shots are nice enough but the light was not with you on the sculpture.

The mono shots need a lot more work IMO to get them really working.
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Re: Akureyri 1

I played with the histogram a bit Alf, on Arctic Sky.

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I don't think it would be wise to take it further than that.

The light is what it is, on such a trip. If you wait around for it to improve, you find that the ship has left without you. I found it often rather strange light, and not what I would have wanted, ideally. The weather up there is not only changeable but changes very quickly indeed, and of course, the light likewise. Usually not for the better! In places like Isafjør∂ur, it's surrounded by high mountains, and you lose the sun (if it's out) for quite a big part of the day; that gives a flat yet sort of bright light, which is partly reflected from the fjord and the mountains across the fjord, at least when there's snow on them. The Icelanders seemed to be good at building their settlements in the shade of high mountains!
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Re: Akureyri 1

Keith I accept that light you get is what you get and that its not possible to hang around to better light es[ecially when travelling with other peope or when you have to catch a boat or plane etc.

That edit is better IMO the sea now looks like it was sparkling and there are more details in the sky
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Keith I accept that light you get is what you get and that its not possible to hang around to better light es[ecially when travelling with other peope or when you have to catch a boat or plane etc.

That edit is better IMO the sea now looks like it was sparkling and there are more details in the sky
M'mm. I quite liked the Whale Tail in silhouette. I might play with it a bit more. But of course, it's into the sun; not ideal position. And I wasn't going to wade out into the fjord, even though the M5 is supposed to be waterproof! Seriously, if you did get out into the fjord, there's a lot of clutter behind the Whale Tail then.

The joys of photography!

BTW - I thought you might comment on the horizon not being dead horizontal....... It's the brennivin, you know!
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M'mm. I quite liked the Whale Tail in silhouette. I might play with it a bit more. But of course, it's into the sun; not ideal position. And I wasn't going to wade out into the fjord, even though the M5 is supposed to be waterproof! Seriously, if you did get out into the fjord, there's a lot of clutter behind the Whale Tail then.

The joys of photography!

BTW - I thought you might comment on the horizon not being dead horizontal....... It's the brennivin, you know!
The silhouette is fine its the blown sky areas but that not easy to deal with whithout grads
You didnt need to go to f10 for the shot to be in focus were you using full auto?
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The silhouette is fine its the blown sky areas but that not easy to deal with whithout grads
You didnt need to go to f10 for the shot to be in focus were you using full auto?
Probably P. I'd been photographing in between buildings, quite dim, so I probably wound the ISO up and forgot to wind it down again.
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The silhouette is fine its the blown sky areas but that not easy to deal with whithout grads
Since I moved to u43 I hardly ever get blown highlights since I have turned on highlight/shadow warnings and have the rear wheel set to exp comp. It's completely instinctive now for me to spin the rear wheel until I'm just under the point of showing highlight blinkies. Simples...
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Since I moved to u43 I hardly ever get blown highlights since I have turned on highlight/shadow warnings and have the rear wheel set to exp comp. It's completely instinctive now for me to spin the rear wheel until I'm just under the point of showing highlight blinkies. Simples...
Interesting Paul (thx), but according to the histogram, neither colour nor BW version has blown highlights; in the colour version, the shadow areas are the problem. I probably brightened them a little too much, but the histogram that I was just checking was of what I posted!
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Interesting Paul (thx), but according to the histogram, neither colour nor BW version has blown highlights; in the colour version, the shadow areas are the problem. I probably brightened them a little too much, but the histogram that I was just checking was of what I posted!
I stand corrected they are not blown just not showing the detail available

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Re: Akureyri 1

Thx Alf. I think I brightened it a little after conversion. Probably a tad too much. I looked at it briefly last night, and resolved to see it back a little this morning and re-post it. And you beat me to it! I think I'd lighten the very dark clouds a little; I think they detract from the Whale Tail. Would you agree?

I think this is as far as I'd want to go; there's detail in the clouds, but the big dark clouds don't overwhelm the Whale Tail.

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Are these taken with the original EM5? I've just done a web search but can't find a value for dMAX, however from my own experience of using the EM5, I find it somewhat constrained (re post #10 above).
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Are these taken with the original EM5? I've just done a web search but can't find a value for dMAX, however from my own experience of using the EM5, I find it somewhat constrained (re post #10 above).
Yes, it is, Steve. I've never felt quite as at home with it as I did with the Canon 50D that I had previously (after a long line of Canon DSLRs). I can't explain why, but I could 'take liberties' with the 50D that I can't with the M5. I prefer the PL7 that I also have, with the exception of it being viewfinderless (Although I have the plug in one), and I tend to do better with it.

Do you still have your M5?
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Yes still have the EM5 MkI; all my recently added slow shutter speed pictures were taken using it. It does well, but to make the most of the dynamic range one needs good light and appropriate exposure. I also have a GX7 and an EM5, I can't quite remember why I've ended up with so many 16MP u4/3 cameras. I should sell the GX7.
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Yes still have the EM5 MkI; all my recently added slow shutter speed pictures were taken using it. It does well, but to make the most of the dynamic range one needs good light and appropriate exposure. I also have a GX7 and an EM5, I can't quite remember why I've ended up with so many 16MP u4/3 cameras. I should sell the GX7.
Yes, I've found the same: in good light its images look great; as soon as it's even slightly dull, they look very flat and lifeless, much more so than when I used the 50D. And I find it not easy to 'pull them back', so to speak. I wonder if it's something to do with the processing engine; I can't seen why the sensor should do that. But i wouldn't go back to the heavy old DSLR now; getting too long in the tooth for that.

Have you tried a PL7 or a Pen F? If it weren't so pricey, I would liked a Pen F.
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