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Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

Causing a bit of controversy on the rumours site.


https://www.43rumors.com/tony-northr...hirds-is-dead/
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

Does anyone care what he thinks?

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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

I for one certainly don't. Maybe some of what he says will happen but so what. Things change that's the only thing that's certain. If what you buy is good enough for your purpose then it's fine. I'd have thought that m4/3s as a lens system is good enough and broad enough to stand up on it's own for some time even if new developments stop.
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

Who's Tony Northrup?
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

Maybe m43 thinks that Tony Northrup is dead!

Actually, I can sort of see his point in a way. It's a reasonable argument he's proposing, but it's far from clear whether he's right. Sure, the Oly 300 f4 on the E-M1ii won't deliver the same pixel-level quality of the Canon 600mm f4 on a 5D mk IV, but it's so much lighter that many photographers will choose to use it. At the smaller focal lengths the weight difference is less, but then there are other benefits such as class-leading IBIS, fancy features like live time etc, which when coupled with the fact that if you're shooting at base ISO on m43 then the IQ is superb for nearly all intended uses.

Time will tell as to whether m43 will survive. I personally think it's 50/50.
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

I think Tony just needed to boost his ratings a little
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

For me u4/3 will die only when my last camera dies. I have 2, the EM5 Mk 1 and a GM5 (Also had a GX7, but I’m donating it to my son in law). When the last dies I may pick up a used EM1 Mk 7
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

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He has a smug and condescending tone for sure.
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

A similar discussion/thread going on over on that other photo forum currently.
I haven't dipped in though I've been tempted, 35 mm zealots in abundance
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

Full Frame only exists as a hangover from film days..

Who is to say what the optimum sensor size is?

Perhaps some might say a 2 1/4 square is a better sensor size, and a trolley to carry it all on...……...

The test is does it work...……….
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

This is a good read. I think I agree with his view:

https://www.thewanderinglensman.com/...ying-with.html
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

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A similar discussion/thread going on over on that other photo forum currently.
I haven't dipped in though I've been tempted, 35 mm zealots in abundance
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Re: Tony Northrup believes micro-four-thirds is dead

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Of course Micro Four Thirds is not dead.

However there was a reference in the link to mobile phones now being equivalent to compact cameras and I believe that is pretty much true. I have been using some state of the art Huawei mobile phones (P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro) and these can produce impressive images; in many ways as good as or better than, say, an XZ-1.

But Micro Four Thirds is way better and has the advantage of significant portability compared to even APS DSLRs and mirrorless cameras, let alone full frame.

Panasonic entered the full frame business because it could via its collaboration with Leica and borrowing their L-mount. I don't believe Panasonic would have invested in their own FF mount and system. FF is a niche and they won't sell nearly as many FF cameras and lenses as Micro Four Thirds, though it's fair to say they expect to make a good deal more money per unit sold with FF. By adding FF it also gives them some valuable kudos.

Panasonic also argues that APS is too close to FF in terms of capability and luggability. If you want a high-end APS-C camera you might as well get an entry-level FF camera. This means APS will feel the FF squeeze and it will be interestingto see what happens with APS in mirrorless. Sony has been concentrating on its FF range with not a lot happening with their APS range. Nikon still has no APS mirrorless offering. Canon has improved the APS EOS-M range but it's not really a pro-competitor like the top Olympus and Panasonic offerings.

It's an interesting time, but declaring the demise of Micro Four Thirds just seems like a way of driving internet traffic to me.

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