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Re: Macro flash

I find that any flash with the right diffusion will do the job.

Here is my E-M1 with my latest set up fitted

Macro-rig by Alf Branch, on Flickr

Here is a shot taken without flash in bright sunlight

Fly with sunlight by Alf Branch, on Flickr

Here is the same subject when the flash charged

Fly with flash by Alf Branch, on Flickr

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http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-n...hirds/p1520760
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Re: Macro flash

Here is a more basid set up

at 150 mm with raynox by Alf Branch, on Flickr

Here is a shot taken with it

Hover-fly by Alf Branch, on Flickr
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Re: Macro flash

Here is a Damsel fly taken with the first set up without the extension tubes or Raynox 250 fitted

Damsel fly by Alf Branch, on Flickr

Here is a flash bracket

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-C-Shap...item1c56763586

And a flash cable

http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-l...-iaaatk38p8haq
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Re: Macro flash

Thanks Alf
how do you get the sigma 105mm 2.8 lens to fit the olympus? I was thinking of buying the raynox 250 but not sure which one to buy for the olympus 60mm macro lens does it clip in place or do I need a step up ring? kind regards Roger
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Re: Macro flash

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For the Raynox you need a step up ring to use it with the clip on holder or a step down ring to screw it on directly I would go step up the you can clip it off as quick as a lens cap.

If you find a 4/3 fit sigma 105 you use a MMF1, 2 or 3 or third part converter and it will AF and the apperture control will work.

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Re: Macro flash

Any idea what step up ring I need for the olympus 60mm macro? love the link for the bracket looks really cool and clever, going to order one now, I can try my metz 58 af2 flash wirelessly using the olympus flash that comes with the camera, will check ebay see if I can find a sigma lens, thanks for the awesome help and suggestions
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Re: Macro flash

i already have an olympus mmf3
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Re: Macro flash

Hi Alf if I use the olympus 60mm macro lens which is 46mm what step down ring would I need for the raynox 250 please?
and using the clip on what size step up ring
sorry to bother you but would appreciate your help in this matter
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Re: Macro flash

Roger
The rear filter thread is 43 mm on the raynox and without the available adapter to 46 mm the filter will fit 52 to 67 mm

Look here for info

http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/...exdcr250eg.htm

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Re: Macro flash

so I need a ring to go from 43mm to 46mm ? looked at the video on the raynox site the images don't look very good?
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Re: Macro flash

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so I need a ring to go from 43mm to 46mm ? looked at the video on the raynox site the images don't look very good?
Roger Lighting is the key macro and good light makes all the difference look at the 2 fly shots in post #16

This guy is under 2mm long and shot using the three tubes the sigma 105 and the raynox at abot 3X magnification

Katiannidae by Alf Branch, on Flickr
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Re: Macro flash

I use bubblewrap and toilet paper to reduce light from all flashes, works well and is CHEAP
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Re: Macro flash

Here are my macro setups:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/top...20/25#13097035

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/top...20/25#13097146

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/top...20/25#13213668

The latest modification:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/top...20/25#13097035

Don't concern yourself with the particular lenses I am using but just get some ideas.

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Re: Macro flash

Hi I also do a lot of dragonfly photography, I do believe a lot of the problem can be caused with having to shoot during the sunnier days for our subjects I am therefore leaning the other way with light.
As you are aware a lot of dragons/ damsels at this time of year are fresh emergence thus there wings are glossy anyway. I have just recently started using a polariser for my set up to try to lower the problem of shiny wings along with the water droplets on plants and the water surface of the pond/ lake/ river.
However cheap polarisers lose 2+ stops of light where as a good brand will cut this back to about 1 stop. Work in progress at the moment. But looking promising.
Kind regards Mike
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Hi I also do a lot of dragonfly photography, I do believe a lot of the problem can be caused with having to shoot during the sunnier days for our subjects I am therefore leaning the other way with light.
As you are aware a lot of dragons/ damsels at this time of year are fresh emergence thus there wings are glossy anyway. I have just recently started using a polariser for my set up to try to lower the problem of shiny wings along with the water droplets on plants and the water surface of the pond/ lake/ river.
However cheap polarisers lose 2+ stops of light where as a good brand will cut this back to about 1 stop. Work in progress at the moment. But looking promising.
Kind regards Mike
Mike,

Polarisers only work with reflections in one plane. With uneven surfaces, droplets, etc., the remedial effect maybe minimal. (With actual metallic surfaces it may be zero). My subject matter for macro rarely requires polarisers, but I always purchased the best I could afford.

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