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Lens help/advice.

I'm brand new to Olympus,M4/3, having moved from DSLR to an Olympus OM-D E-M5. I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on choice of lenses for, strictly amateur, wildlife/birds in flight etc.. The two I have come across(that I can afford 2nd hand) are the 40-150mm and the 70-300mm. Are there better options? What do you think would be a good compromise between function and price?

Also, am I correct in thinking that Panasonic M4/3/lenses would fit straight on to my OM-D E-M5?
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Re: Lens help/advice.

You're quite correct in that Panasonic m4/3s lenses will fit your Oly E-M5. "full size" 4/3s lenses will work via an adaptor.
You mention the 70-300mm; I believe that is for the 4/3s rather than m4/3s. The one you would need to fit directly to the camera without an adaptor is the 75-300mm.
I can't comment on how good this is for BIF (birds in flight) as I don't have one, but I suspect you might struggle without lots of practice.

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Re: Lens help/advice.

First of all, the Micro Four Thirds is a standard, so all MFT lenses will fit and work correctly.

As for lens choice, that really is down to you to decide on the field of view you are wanting.

However: To aid in making a decision, there is a very useful tool that reads all the exif info from all your image files and plots a graph of what you use.

http://www.vandel.nl/

Once you know that the majority of your images are taken at 200mm (35 Eqv) then the 40 -150 (80-300 eqv) would suit you. But if that's not enough "Pull" then the 75-300 would be needed.

The 40-150 R II and the new 75-300 are both very good and have produced some excellent images for me.

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Re: Lens help/advice.

There is also https://wow.olympus.eu/en_GB/index.html

where you can "try-B4U-buy"
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Re: Lens help/advice.

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You're quite correct in that Panasonic m4/3s lenses will fit your Oly E-M5. "full size" 4/3s lenses will work via an adaptor.
You mention the 70-300mm; I believe that is for the 4/3s rather than m4/3s. The one you would need to fit directly to the camera without an adaptor is the 75-300mm.
I can't comment on how good this is for BIF (birds in flight) as I don't have one, but I suspect you might struggle without lots of practice.

Welcome to one of the friendliest forums around, and don't be put off by the odd little spat here and there. There is huge amounts of expertise and experience here, which will be freely shared.
Thanks Bill, you may have stopped me making a disastrous error as I had been giving preference to the 70-300mm, which, as you state, is a 4/3's fitting. I have been doing some BIF with my DSLR and got some fantastic help from an old schoolfriend who is the principal tour leader for Limosa Photographic Holidays, so I'm hoping I'll manage to get at least a few decent shots. As I'm disabled I shoot from my wheelchair using a monopod. Seems to work! Thanks again, regards, Alan.
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Re: Lens help/advice.

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First of all, the Micro Four Thirds is a standard, so all MFT lenses will fit and work correctly.

As for lens choice, that really is down to you to decide on the field of view you are wanting.

However: To aid in making a decision, there is a very useful tool that reads all the exif info from all your image files and plots a graph of what you use.

http://www.vandel.nl/

Once you know that the majority of your images are taken at 200mm (35 Eqv) then the 40 -150 (80-300 eqv) would suit you. But if that's not enough "Pull" then the 75-300 would be needed.

The 40-150 R II and the new 75-300 are both very good and have produced some excellent images for me.

Thanks Graham. I'll check out the link you kindly supplied. The try b4 you buy sounds interesting too. Regards, Alan..
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Re: Lens help/advice.

There is always the "Digiscoping" option, if you need really powerful magnification. Trouble is the scopes are very expensive.

http://srb-photographic.co.uk/micro-...kit-7442-p.asp
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Re: Lens help/advice.

Alan,
Since you have an E-M5 I suggest you stick with m43 lenses - as the AF performance of 43 lenses (+ adapter) would be disappointing, especially if you intend to try BIF or similar.
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Re: Lens help/advice.

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Since you have an E-M5 I suggest you stick with m43 lenses - as the AF performance of 43 lenses (+ adapter) would be disappointing, especially if you intend to try BIF or similar.
Thanks for that Chris. Will save me money, disappointment and loads of grief from the better half. Any advice regarding Panasonic lenses, some of which, I believe, have in-lens OIS. Does it work in tandem with the in-body OIS in the Oly, or do they fight one another?
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Thanks for that Chris. Will save me money, disappointment and loads of grief from the better half. Any advice regarding Panasonic lenses, some of which, I believe, have in-lens OIS. Does it work in tandem with the in-body OIS in the Oly, or do they fight one another?
OIS vs IBS has been debated and I'm not sure what the final thoughts are...
Not having any OIS lenses I can't say if they fight each other.

However for BIF it's likely the shutter speeds will be well above any need for either.

We do advise turning IBS off when using a tripod, but with a monopod and moving the lens you may well need to select an appropriate mode.
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Re: Lens help/advice.

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Thanks for that Chris. Will save me money, disappointment and loads of grief from the better half. Any advice regarding Panasonic lenses, some of which, I believe, have in-lens OIS. Does it work in tandem with the in-body OIS in the Oly, or do they fight one another?
Most of the Panasonic lenses that provide in-lens IS have a switch so that the feature can be de-activated when used on a (Olympus) camera body which has in-body IS.

The E-M1 also has a menu option (Cog C, Lens IS Priority) which can be used to specify whether to use the camera or lens IS when there is a choice. I know this didn't exist in the early f/w versions on the E-M5 but am unsure if it was added in later f/w updates.

As for Panasonic lens - you might consider a 100-300 for your BIF. It's good but not brilliant (and they tend to lack sharpness at FL >250mm). On the plus side however it is faster than the Oly 75-300.
Currently Ffordes have a 2nd hand example available, see:
http://www.ffordes.com/category/Lens...ortExpression=
Ffordes offer a 10 day approval period - so you could decide if it meets your requirements.
PS - I am not an agent or interested party in this company.

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Re: Lens help/advice.

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There is always the "Digiscoping" option, if you need really powerful magnification. Trouble is the scopes are very expensive.

http://srb-photographic.co.uk/micro-...kit-7442-p.asp
It's worth keeping your eye out for one of the older Kowa scopes with the flourite front element.

TSN-3 is an angled eyepiece 77mm scope, and TSN-4 straight through. (TSN-1&2 are similar, but with a glass front element)

Similarly the TS-613 & TS-614 are a bit smaller and lighter with a 60mm front flourite element, so not quite as bright.

Some fetch high prices on ebay, depending on the day. My TS-614 came off Birdforum classifieds, and my TSN-4 from ebay; both were a reasonable price, but I had to wait for quite a while before I found them.

The ones with the flourite element, to help combat chromatic aberrations, are labelled as "Prominar"
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Re: Lens help/advice.

Thanks to everyone for taking the time to answer my query. Now that I have all the necessary information to hand, all that remains is for me to convince my better half that life would not be worth living were I not to be able to buy "at least" one of the suggested lenses. I'll post images as and when..

Best regards, Alan...
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Re: Lens help/advice.

Unless you have a bird feeder close to the house (or use a hide in a bird sanctuary) to attract our feathered friends then you will need all the magnification you can get.
The Olympus 75-300mm (or similar Panasonic) was the MFT lens of choice over something that stopped at 150mm (until the PRO zoom came along).

If you tend to shoot birds of prey at organised events when you know where the birds are flying and can position yourself accordingly then the 40-150 will (mostly) suffice. Sometimes if you are too close with the 75-300mm then the 75mm short end is too much and you will need to switch to your 12-40mm.
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Re: Lens help/advice.

Thanks for that. Sensible piece of advice regarding my lack of ability to get up close and personal, so I'll no doubt go with the 75-300 for now. It's good to know that I can be sure of getting the right adviceI'm looking for without any sales pitch tacked on.
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