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Olympus OM-D E-M1 The first Micro Four Thirds camera that offers phase detect focusing so you can use Four Thirds DSLR lenses normally as well a Micro Four Thirds lenses.

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E-M1 concerns.

I am reading many posts describing problems with the IBIS and lock-ups on the E-M1 as I wait patiently for my 12-40 kit to arrive. I understand now that I probably won't be getting mine until towards the end of November. I thus assume that production is probably working flat out to meet demand.
What therefore concerns me is, are Olympus addressing the faults manifesting in the E-M1 in the current production run. Because I would be extremely unhappy to receive a camera for which I paid nearly 2000 two months in advance with a known fault. In which case I for one would prefer to wait for a "fixed" camera rather than have to experience the problems and inconvenience other early adopters are sadly suffering.
It would be reassuring to hear that Olympus working on a fix.

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Re: E-M1 concerns.

I've got to say that my one lock-up has failed to repeat itself. I did try to replicate the conditions yesterday, but all was well. And other, more vociferous, forums are quiet on this issue.
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Re: E-M1 concerns.

I'm not convinced this is a generic problem Steve, as Stephen said, its too quiet out there in the wilder reaches of the forums for there to be a common fault
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Re: E-M1 concerns.

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I am reading many posts describing problems with the IBIS and lock-ups on the E-M1 as I wait patiently for my 12-40 kit to arrive. I understand now that I probably won't be getting mine until towards the end of November. I thus assume that production is probably working flat out to meet demand.
What therefore concerns me is, are Olympus addressing the faults manifesting in the E-M1 in the current production run. Because I would be extremely unhappy to receive a camera for which I paid nearly 2000 two months in advance with a known fault. In which case I for one would prefer to wait for a "fixed" camera rather than have to experience the problems and inconvenience other early adopters are sadly suffering.
It would be reassuring to hear that Olympus working on a fix.

Steve
I have to agree 100% with you and have been on various threads here with some concerns. With cameras only days and weeks old with some issues there are many more "out there" who may have had as yet unreported problems. It would be very odd if the only issues are the few "E users" on this forum. If they have been sold in low numbers ( due to demand) then the faulted ones consist of a higher percentage ( not good news) alternatively the quality control hasn't been great and cameras that Olympus would not want to be sold, have been...also not great.
Your last sentence is spot on, ("It would be reassuring to hear that Olympus working on a fix.") but in the meantime I will be amending my order tomorrow and no longer risking 2000!!
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Re: E-M1 concerns.

I've had my E-M1 since 5th October and to date the camera has worked perfectly, no problems with lock ups or ibis.

I've tested all of my lenses from the Bigma to the ZD 9-18 and I've been more than happy with how it's performed.

I tested the camera tethered to an ipad several times, each time for at least two hours, again it did all I asked of it.

I realise that I haven't tried tracking and photographing moving subjects as yet therefore, I may not have put the camera under the stresses required to cause the problems however, as mentioned previously, my E-M1 seems fine.

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Re: E-M1 concerns.

Can I ask why you paid for the camera two months in advance? Normally you pay a small deposit which sometimes might not be returnable if you change your mind.
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Can I ask why you paid for the camera two months in advance? Normally you pay a small deposit which sometimes might not be returnable if you change your mind.
Some folk ordered the camera in advance and payments were taken by some retailers and Olympus within days...things were compounded by un-forecast delays in getting the cameras.
My large deposit was taken 24 hrs after I ordered the camera kit in mid Sept....I was told last week not to expect the camera until towards the end of November. (As previously said I am sorting that tmw).
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Can I ask why you paid for the camera two months in advance? Normally you pay a small deposit which sometimes might not be returnable if you change your mind.
Olympus Shop took the full amount from my card on 30th September.
The explanation being, to secure the order. Apparently if the payment isn't applied for within a specified period, 28 days I think the order would be voided and have to placed again.

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Re: E-M1 concerns.

Yes 30 days after the order was placed:

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-righ...g-regulations/
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Re: E-M1 concerns.

Well they should not have taken your money that early. Just that I am ex photographic retail and it annoys me when this happens to people:

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-righ...g-regulations/
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Re: E-M1 concerns.

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I've had my E-M1 since 5th October and to date the camera has worked perfectly, no problems with lock ups or ibis.

I've tested all of my lenses from the Bigma to the ZD 9-18 and I've been more than happy with how it's performed.

I tested the camera tethered to an ipad several times, each time for at least two hours, again it did all I asked of it.

I realise that I haven't tried tracking and photographing moving subjects as yet therefore, I may not have put the camera under the stresses required to cause the problems however, as mentioned previously, my E-M1 seems fine.

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Hi Dave
I have just tried my four third lenses and was not impressed . I must admit I had AF single point large And have now changed to small and will Try again tomorrow.
My 7-14 was worst would not lock on to anything unless there's was a large contrast area. My normal landscape technique is to focus one third into the scene and recompose that was impossible unless there was a large contrast area there which the camera could focus on ,this would not be the case very often.
The 50-200 again needed large contrast area but was a bit better . The big surprise was how good the Bigma was I was expecting it to be the worst but it focused nearly as quick as the e5
If you have a setting that works best please let me know as confidence is a bit low at this stage.
I have to add I am using the MMF 1 just wondering if that is the problem as the manual says MMF 2/3 however I thought they were only contact adapters
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Re: E-M1 concerns.

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Some folk ordered the camera in advance and payments were taken by some retailers and Olympus within days...things were compounded by un-forecast delays in getting the cameras.
My large deposit was taken 24 hrs after I ordered the camera kit in mid Sept....I was told last week not to expect the camera until towards the end of November. (As previously said I am sorting that tmw).
Just to complete the picture I ordered my body with grip and mmf-3 on 11 Sept. My card, via PayPal, was debited for the full amount at the time of the order. To be precise 12:42 on 11th Sept.

I will not go over very well trodden ground again on the rest of the story.

However I can report that according to the excellent Andre at the Olympus shop I should have my complete order this Friday. Whether or not I get it before lunchtime when I leave to go to Yorkshire for the weekend is unknown.

Assuming it does arrive then it will be seven weeks since order and payment.

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Hi Dave
I have just tried my four third lenses and was not impressed . I must admit I had AF single point large And have now changed to small and will Try again tomorrow.
My 7-14 was worst would not lock on to anything unless there's was a large contrast area. My normal landscape technique is to focus one third into the scene and recompose that was impossible unless there was a large contrast area there which the camera could focus on ,this would not be the case very often.
The 50-200 again needed large contrast area but was a bit better . The big surprise was how good the Bigma was I was expecting it to be the worst but it focused nearly as quick as the e5
If you have a setting that works best please let me know as confidence is a bit low at this stage.
I have to add I am using the MMF 1 just wondering if that is the problem as the manual says MMF 2/3 however I thought they were only contact adapters
Cheers
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This is quite contrary to the vast majority of experiences, including mine. There has to be something not normal with your setup.

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Re: E-M1 concerns.

I can't speak for retail dealers but as for the Olympus online shop, their system deletes orders that have not been paid for after one month. Most orders would have expired this way without payment being accepted because initial supplies were later than expected.

I don't believe there would be any problem in you getting your money back if you no longer wanted to be in the waiting list.

It's not ideal but although there have been quite a few comments on this I don't hear many reports of people choosing to get their money refunded.

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Re: E-M1 concerns.

Does seem strange. have used the larger focus area with a 14-54mm and the only way I could not get it to lock was on really low contrast subjects or a horizontal line. Then I just look for something else at the same distance to focus on and reframe the shot. I am also using the MMF-1.
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