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Re: Considering hiring a lens

That's interesting - thank you. If autumn/winter are potentially better, I had perhaps better prepare to go sooner rather than later. Is the first week-end of March still "winter" for these purposes?
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Re: Considering hiring a lens

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That's interesting - thank you. If autumn/winter are potentially better, I had perhaps better prepare to go sooner rather than later. Is the first week-end of March still "winter" for these purposes?
Broadly speaking yes. The Vernal Equinox which is, for human purposes the first day of spring is 20th March but birds don't know this and start their migration when the weather conditions are "right" for them. In practice as the first weekend in March is only a couple of weeks away the sighting reports from WWT Barnes now will give you an idea of what is around and you can check over the next two weeks to see if there are any sudden significant changes. Having had a mild Winter so far it looks from the number of daffodils in flower that "Spring is early" this year but given the variability of our weather in the UK it is still possible it could all change. Snow well in to March is not unknown.

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Re: Considering hiring a lens

I have now arranged this hire, and went for the 300mm f/2.8 and EC20 in the end (I already have an EC14 if 600mm proves too much in some situations): from my recollection on the last occasion of me going, what I needed to maximise was reach.

Has anyone any tips on using such a combination? I do not think that I have ever used a camera lens with such a narrow angle of view before.
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Re: Considering hiring a lens

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I have now arranged this hire, and went for the 300mm f/2.8 and EC20 in the end (I already have an EC14 if 600mm proves too much in some situations): from my recollection on the last occasion of me going, what I needed to maximise was reach.

Has anyone any tips on using such a combination? I do not think that I have ever used a camera lens with such a narrow angle of view before.
Definitely plan to use a tripod or monopod... (see my photo's a few posts up from here!)

Start by not being too greedy! and work into static situations and then as you get practiced move into the closer and moving targets... You'll note there's no birds in flight on my post, I simply struggled too much as the Panasonic body I was using wasn't up to the job! I'd be trying with my EM-1 though!
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Re: Considering hiring a lens

The lens arrived to-day, and I spent some time testing and getting used to it in London (without the teleconverter; I did not have my tripod with me) during my lunch' break. It really is quite a lens - this is the only piece of photographic equipment that I have yet used that doubles as a piece of gymnasium equipment. It is also fantastically sharp and really rather wonderful.

I have not had time to upload much so far, but here is one picture that I managed to take with it of some daffodils in Gray's Inn:

Daffodils by James Petts, on Flickr
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Re: Considering hiring a lens

Nice to see the 300 getting used by another hire customer!

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Re: Considering hiring a lens

Some more photographs from yesterday:

Somerset House by James Petts, on Flickr

Crow, crowing by James Petts, on Flickr

Daffodils by James Petts, on Flickr

St. Paul's by James Petts, on Flickr

Somerset House by James Petts, on Flickr
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Re: Considering hiring a lens

Some initial results and observations from my day at the London Wetland Centre (many are yet awaiting post-processing):

Equipment for photographing birds by James Petts, on Flickr

The lens is splendid and in many cases is plenty long enough with the 2x teleconverter:

Common shoveller by James Petts, on Flickr

However, in many cases it is still not possible to get close enough in the hides to fill the frame:

Plover by James Petts, on Flickr

Cormorant on a bouy by James Petts, on Flickr

This must be a technique/strategy issue rather than equipment issue, as one cannot get much longer than this.

On the subject of technique, I think that I need to use a higher shutter speed, as some lack of sharpness is evident in a number of cases:

Common shoveller by James Petts, on Flickr

There appears to be some sort of conference for cormorants, gulls and herons on this island:

Cormorant conference by James Petts, on Flickr

Otters are very cute:

Asian shortclaw otters by James Petts, on Flickr

(even when taken with the 60mm lens)

Asian shortclaw otters by James Petts, on Flickr

One has to be extremely close to a small bird such as a robin to fill the frame, even at 600mm:

Robin by James Petts, on Flickr

Robin by James Petts, on Flickr

(This robin was no more than about 3m away at the time)

And finally, the weather sealing seems to work fine, but taking good photographs in the pouring rain is challenging:

Camera by James Petts, on Flickr

Coot in the rain by James Petts, on Flickr

I plan to have another go at Rainham Marshes to-morrow, which is a little closer, to see whether I can improve on some of the techinque issues from to-day. I do plan on getting my money's worth out of the hire!

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Re: Considering hiring a lens

I think other bird specialists will concur or otherwise but I have always assumed that to be able to fill the frame with your target is very much an occasional and fortunate luxury

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Re: Considering hiring a lens

Yes, I suspect that you are probably right. There is much to learn in the field of wildlife photography, one of the most challenging genres of photography of all from my understanding.

A few more observations after having spent a day to-day at the Rainham marshes with the lens.

It is seriously heavy for walking around: Rainham marshes is more spread out than the London Wetlands Centre, with a two mile circular walk and, even with long breaks in several of the hides, I spent the second half of the walk just wanting to return to the visitor centre and have lunch' and a rest. With this lens, transport is a serious consideration.

A monopod would probably have been better than a tripod for photographs outside the hides, of the small birds near the feeders, but the tripod was useful in the hides for being able to relax for a while and not constantly have to support the camera.

My tripod (a Vanguard MT 100 bought circa 14 years ago and which I have generally found to be sturdy) is not quite up to the job of dealing with such a huge lens (and it is showing signs of age in any event, although I am reluctant to replace it in part because it was a present from my grandmother).

It is very useful to have the second body, the E-P5, as the Rainham marshes lent themselves well to a spot of landscape photography, too, and I was able to have the E-P5 with the 12-40mm around my neck whilst lugging the vast 300mm f/2.8 with E-M1 attached:

Interior, hide by James Petts, on Flickr

Reed beds by James Petts, on Flickr

Using the exposure compensation dial is important for getting proper exposure where there is much water in the background; to-day's pictures of that sort have come out rather better than yesterday's for that reason:

Lapwings and golden plovers by James Petts, on Flickr

Bird feeders are splendid places to take pictures of small birds:

Sparrow by James Petts, on Flickr

Finch by James Petts, on Flickr

Blue tit by James Petts, on Flickr

I think that I should like to go to Rainham marshes again, perhaps in the warmer weather, although I am rather wary of doing so carting around the weight of the 300mm f/2.8 around the whole walk; I might either go with my own equipment and get the best that I can with 283mm, consider hiring a different, slightly lighter super telephoto lens, such as the Micro Four Thirds 300mm f/4 whenever that becomes available for hire, or the 90-250mm f/2.8 (which I understand is a bit lighter than the 300mm f/2.8; does anyone have any idea how much lighter), or use the 2x teleconverter (either bought or hired) with the 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 (although this would only be feasible in good lighting), which would get me 400mm at f/7, which is not too far off the 400mm f/6.3 of the new Panasonic 100-400mm lens or the 420mm f.5.6 of the Olympus 300mm f/4 with 1.4x teleconverter.

Ian's hire service is rather good so far as my experience so far goes (everything other than the sending it back part; I am dropping it into my workplace to-morrow morning before the courier arrives); it is quite a thing to be able to hire very specialist lenses of high quality, and the process seems efficient and straightforward. I should certainly consider hiring a lens again if an occasion arose for it.

Also, they do sell good cake at the visitor centre at Rainham marshes.
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