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Re: Milky Way

I was trying to stack the milkyway pictures to see what difference I can get..but my pictures came out PINK.
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Re: Milky Way

Thats OK it just needs colour balancing. When DSS has done the stacking and you can see the pink result. This is normal because of your cameras bayer matrix. I assume you are stacking raw files ?

Best approach is click on Deep Sky Stackers help at the bottom of the Options section
Then select Processing section.
It will explain how to do the adjustments to get your image colours how you want them.
Its a bit fiddly but works really well.
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Thats OK it just needs colour balancing. When DSS has done the stacking and you can see the pink result. This is normal because of your cameras bayer matrix. I assume you are stacking raw files ?

Best approach is click on Deep Sky Stackers help at the bottom of the Options section
Then select Processing section.
It will explain how to do the adjustments to get your image colours how you want them.
Its a bit fiddly but works really well.
Let me try them again. What about the moon? Will this DSS work? I stack with the RegiStax, the results was WOW!!

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Re: Milky Way

RegiStax is designed for the moon and planetary shots, but its showing its age.
Autostakkert is even better its the gold standard.

Deep Sky Stacker is designed for err ....Deep Sky
It will work on the moon but no way near as good as the other two above.

Here are some useful links that I posted in another thread.

https://sites.google.com/site/astropipp/useful-links
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Thank Wornish. I think I need to buy a telescope and a tracker if I am going that direction in Photography. As of now, I will limit myself to the milkyway.
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How does DSS compare to Sequator?

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Super complicated. you need Wornish to sit with you on a full tutorial plus how to shoot the correct photos to get it to well...work.
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For Milky Way shots with something in the foreground then I believe Sequator is better, certainly easier to use. John(birdboy) is the expert.

For deep sky images like galaxies and nebula then Deep Sky Stacker is the best free one. There are others that can get more out of an astro image but they are not free and have a fairly steep learning curve.

Astro Pixel Processor its the new guy on the block and is the modern version of Deep Sky Stacker. Think it costs 50 per year or 125 to buy outright.

If you want to get the best out of moonshots and planetary then Astra Image is very powerful. The 64bit pro version has some amazing image enhancement tools. You can use it for free but it won't let you save the result. That said you can always take a screen capture of the result if you don't want to pay.

Then for those who get the bug there is Startools and finally Pixinsight, which many pro astronomers use.
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Re: Milky Way

Well first time out trying to photograph the milky way, em1 MK2, 7-14 f2.8 (manual focus set to infinity) took shots approx 25 seconds exposure camera on a tripod remote shutter what a load of rubbish my shots are lol.

Lessons learned:

Doesn't matter how confident you think you are with a camera and it's setup, when it's dark nothing is where you think it is lol.

Using a torch is a necessity, especially traversing steps lol - I did find it funny falling down the bottom steps though.

Walking along a beach in the darkness can get you a bit wet.

There's a massive abundance of planes, flying over Llandudno on a night to provide specs across your pic.

So anyone got any tips on what I should be setting the camera to in order to get one sharp image?

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Well first time out trying to photograph the milky way, em1 MK2, 7-14 f2.8 (manual focus set to infinity) took shots approx 25 seconds exposure camera on a tripod remote shutter what a load of rubbish my shots are lol.

Lessons learned:

Doesn't matter how confident you think you are with a camera and it's setup, when it's dark nothing is where you think it is lol.

Using a torch is a necessity, especially traversing steps lol - I did find it funny falling down the bottom steps though.

Walking along a beach in the darkness can get you a bit wet.

There's a massive abundance of planes, flying over Llandudno on a night to provide specs across your pic.

So anyone got any tips on what I should be setting the camera to in order to get one sharp image?

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Well you have summed up the challenges very well.

Some of the earlier posts on here give you example settings, but there is no one right answer to the question, it depends on the location.

Two options at least :

Use Manual mode + Manual focus. Typical exposure times of around 30 secs at ISO 800 as a starting point but again it depends on where you are.

You could also try Live Time it lets you see the photo as it develops.


As for a torch use a red light one, it helps keep your dark visional and stops you tripping up!
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Re: Milky Way

Currently in live composite mode, inadvertently put it in live bulb but also noticed somehow images were almost like daylight even though dark.

Images still way out of focus and awful to be honest.

Am guessing night time photos with this camera are going to be my nemesis.

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Re: Milky Way

Am no expert here. So here is my settings.

F2.8, 25s, ISO1600.

Manual focus to the treeline. Then in the camera set the release to Custom, 0.5s interval, 10 exposures. After all that 10 exposures, 1 with the lens cap on fir the noise exposure.

Post processing Sequator. Stack all 11 images.

To check the settings and all, use the light from LED screen from your smartphone. Pretty useful for walking too.
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Currently in live composite mode, inadvertently put it in live bulb but also noticed somehow images were almost like daylight even though dark.

Images still way out of focus and awful to be honest.

Am guessing night time photos with this camera are going to be my nemesis.

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Ignore the fact that the sky may look bright at first. Bring the shadows down and, if necessary, the overall brightness and perhaps black levels. Play around with the image and you may find it magically transforms into what you were looking for. Best shoot RAW if you aren't already.

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Currently in live composite mode, inadvertently put it in live bulb but also noticed somehow images were almost like daylight even though dark.

Images still way out of focus and awful to be honest.

Am guessing night time photos with this camera are going to be my nemesis.

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If at first you don't succeed ...
Sounds like your issue is getting the focus right. The infinity mark on the lens is not accurate and just turning the focus all the way round to the mark until it stops will not give you the correct focus.

You can zoom in on a portion of the frame when adjusting focus. Choosing a high zoom ratio allows you to to focus on a smaller area than is normally covered by the AF target. Ideally with some stars in it. Increase the magnification to X14 and then manually adjust the focus until the stars are as small as possible.

To use Super Spot AF, you must first assign magnify to a button using the Button Function see page 66. and page 41 in the manual.


Even on a tripod you get some vibration when the shutter is pressed. So use delayed shutter release of 2secs or even 12 secs.

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Re: Milky Way

At times you may not want that LV boast ON. it really noisy that you cannot determine what is star and what is noise.
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