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Show us your Dunnocks

This shy and normally ground loving bird has been reluctant until today to pose for any photographs. So it was with mixed feelings that I tempted it out with some bird seed, nice to see you clearly at last, but couldn't you have come out when there was some better light?.

Shot at iso (1600 and 2500) as the snow started to fall this afternoon.

E-3, 50-200, EC1.4, Master, The GIMP. Coate Water Park.









Given the conditions I'm quite pleased with the result.

Any comments

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Given the conditions I'm quite pleased with the result.
And so you should be Nick - very nice set of pics there

Dunnocks are very difficult to photograph well, but I think you've managed it well here - especially at those ISO ratings !
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Re: Show us your Dunnocks

If only I had a picture to show

Never really noticed what nice birds they are.Only ever seen them under bushes etc.

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Nice shots Nick, too bad about the banding in the background. Maybe you could try to select the bg only and apply desaturation of red and some blur?

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This shy and normally ground loving bird has been reluctant until today to pose for any photographs.
Did you try to shoot it on the ground? We have one visiting regularly in our garden and it likes to search for food under fallen leaves. (Like blackbirds do).

This is a shot through the window, E-3 50-200 + EC-20
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Re: Show us your Dunnocks

Thank you All.

Thea - must admit when I realised how high I was going to have to push the iso I almost didn't try - really emphasises the need to watch the histogram so there is as much good info as possible along with the noise.

Andy - in their unshowy way I think these are a very dainty and attractive bird.

Henk - I've tried ground shots - but never had any luck getting a good distinct image, the natural camoflage works well against mud and fallen leaves. You are probably right about reducing the banding by desaturating the red channel selectively - but overall I'm quite pleased with results anyway. Your's is a good shot and I'm impressed, the ground around mine is more typical muddy woodland.

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I think that's a good demo of the E-system working in low available light conditions and the results are visually pleasing. The banding could easily be selected out for treatment.

I have just the one pic (id's as house sparrow) although we get both house sparrows and hedge sparrows - they are tricky low-contrast targets and never hold still -you did well!

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Re: Show us your Dunnocks

I've got a nice pair of Dunnocks...

[edit] - now 3!

I took this time last year.

First is ground feeding - messy background, but that's where they like to be.

Second after attracting it to a feeder.

E-3 with Nikon 300mm f2.8 manual, 1/100s.

Whilst they are also know as Hedge Sparrows, they're not the same family as the once common Sparrow.

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Re: Show us your Dunnocks

Thank you Mark - and the first one is very nice, although I'm a bit worried about the colour on the second.

Well Keith can't but help think it is cheating to have both bright sunlight and a different species, but I agree it's a lovely specimen shot of a house sparrow.

Not having much like on my debanding - will have to try again earlier in the day

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Re: Show us your Dunnocks

Nick,

On the second image - I was going to say that's how it was _ a quick burst of sunlight, but I looked at the original, and wow - v. heavy handed on the colour - what can I say - posted an old image without checking.

No more time tonight, but I'll put that right tomorrow. Found another one as well.

They are very elusive characters - I think we only see them this time of the year because they come to the feeders with the reduction in natural food.

I would like the background in your images if it wasn't for the noise/banding - have you had a go with one of the NR packages?

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I would like the background in your images if it wasn't for the noise/banding - have you had a go with one of the NR packages?

Mark
Well noise reduction was a mixture of Greystoration (the GIMP) and Master, and I'm still trying out different approaches to get the best results. (I suspect I'll end up doing different settings on the background and subject - to keep the detail where I want it).

These posts are on the edge of the park - where it backs onto a road so I have good seperation and a neutral background - very handy except the lack of details exagerates the impact of the noise.

Packages - you mean those things you have to pay for, they are my last resort after trying all the options in shareware.

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Re: Show us your Dunnocks

Just added a 3rd Dunnock , and revised the one with colour issues. Still bright, but there was a blast of sun it seems.

I have a number of plug-ins, and the main reason is time - v. precious.

The missus wants me to copy some skiing photos, and I've promised a couple of images to the club - all tonight!

I think your 3rd image is worthy of a bit more time with the bg.

My iso was 200, so less issues with any noise, but I did have to up the raw files exposure somewhat.

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Re: Show us your Dunnocks

Henk,

I really like the touch of red in the eye - there's some intent there!

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Re: Show us your Dunnocks

We now have two pairs of Dunnocks permanenetly in the garden and I still have not got a shot worthy of this forum.
Notice that your little fellow appears to have had damage to his left leg, Nick, great detail to be able to see that.
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We now have two pairs of Dunnocks permanenetly in the garden and I still have not got a shot worthy of this forum.
Notice that your little fellow appears to have had damage to his left leg, Nick, great detail to be able to see that.
I think you are right about the leg, looking at a couple of other shots it seems to be splayed a bit out. Doesn't seem to interfere otherwise.

I was quite surprised to get these results and I put them down to getting the exposure 'pretty much' right, though if I get another chance at shots like these I may try pushing the exposure further to the right (but of course that plays against shutter speed)

Mark - Like the 2'nd ground shot, still not 'sold' on the colours of the last shot.

Now lets see if I can find some wrens willing to pose in a thunderstorm.

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