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Shutter Shock :(

Just been having a play with the new camera and found my images looked blurry. Checked shutter speed and ISO and they seemed OK so tried anti shock mode and the images were tack sharp suggesting the EM5-II has bad shutter shock. Has anyone else found this? Is there any drawback with using anti shock all the time, as I know some said using silent mode (so electronic first and 2nd curtain) could introduce artefacts?

Here's an example, although not the worst

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Shutter speeds were around 80-120.
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

The E-M5ii has a completely new shutter so it's surprising there's still shutter shock. However, there's the EFCS (0 sec delay) or full electronic shutter that avoids it. I use EFCS all the time on the E-M1 and have never seen any artefacts.

I also used a GX7 for a little while and used the full electronic shutter a lot. This did have some issues though - at about 1/60-100th sec in artificial light you get banding, and if the subject's moving you can get so-called "jell-o" effects (e.g. Diagonal stretching of the image in the direction of movement).
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

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The E-M5ii has a completely new shutter so it's surprising there's still shutter shock. However, there's the EFCS (0 sec delay) or full electronic shutter that avoids it. I use EFCS all the time on the E-M1 and have never seen any artefacts.

I also used a GX7 for a little while and used the full electronic shutter a lot. This did have some issues though - at about 1/60-100th sec in artificial light you get banding, and if the subject's moving you can get so-called "jell-o" effects (e.g. Diagonal stretching of the image in the direction of movement).
Thanks for the info. I'll leave this on and see what results I get. I think it only works up to 1/320 though, so I'll see what happens after that ie whether there's still SS at high shutter speeds.
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

As a new EM 5 MK2 owner myself, I'd also be interested in the results of your tests.
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

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As a new EM 5 MK2 owner myself, I'd also be interested in the results of your tests.
I did take a couple of test shots at 1/1000 IIRC, one with antishock and one without which seemed a bit pointless considering AS doesn't work any higher than 1/320, but one image was sharper than the other. Trouble is I can't remember which was which, the EXIF doesn't tell you either (AFAIK). I'll try again over the weekend and remember which was which lol. My guess is it's irrelevant anyway and it was user error

Got to say I'm impressed with the IBIS. Managed to shoot handheld at 40mm (80mm eq) and get a blur free image at 1s
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

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...Got to say I'm impressed with the IBIS. Managed to shoot handheld at 40mm (80mm eq) and get a blur free image at 1s
Just for a laugh - I though I would see if I can handhold for 1 second as well (again, at 40mm). A shot of the open door as I sit here on the laptop. Straight out of the camera except for cropping. I took only the one shot and here it is - not too shabby.



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Re: Shutter Shock :(

I played with the E-M5ii for a half hour at the Chiswick street walk last Sat. Without even taking a single exposure, it's obvious from the viewfinder view that the IBIS is superior to that in the E-M5 and E-M1. Amazing technology really.
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

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I played with the E-M5ii for a half hour at the Chiswick street walk last Sat. Without even taking a single exposure, it's obvious from the viewfinder view that the IBIS is superior to that in the E-M5 and E-M1. Amazing technology really.
Hi there Paul!

Given that I have taken 1/10th second exposures with a 150mm lens on the E-M1, that new E-M5ii must be powered by witchcraft if it is even better!

Cheers,

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PS can everyone stop telling me how good it is as I can't afford one right now
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

Give it one or two years Ralph, it will!
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

With results like this I'd be leaving it on all the time
Must admit for all the E-M5ii's bells and whistles, I still prefer the feel and build of the M1
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

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Hi there Paul!

Given that I have taken 1/10th second exposures with a 150mm lens on the E-M1, that new E-M5ii must be powered by witchcraft if it is even better!

Cheers,

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Off topic but I have hand held my EOS 70D + Tamron 150-600 which is a rather hefty combination, at 1/25 (as can be seen in my Flickr Photosream)
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

Just another example of the shutter shock, this time at 1/100. I'll not insult you by posting which has anti shock enabled and which hasn't


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Re: Shutter Shock :(

No photos in shot above. EDIT : ignore when I posted this and went back the horses showed?
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Re: Shutter Shock :(

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Just another example of the shutter shock, this time at 1/100. I'll not insult you by posting which has anti shock enabled and which hasn't
At that known shutter speed it is worthwhile using the '0' second anti-shock feature. It is a case of knowing the camera's abilities (or the users) & its limitations & use it accordingly. On the E-M1 I leave it set to '0' second & just select it in the drive mode any time I think I need it (although the thinking part I find difficult at times ).
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Just another example of the shutter shock, this time at 1/100. I'll not insult you by posting which has anti shock enabled and which hasn't
Which lens were you using for this shot Ralph?
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