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Comparison!

Been trying our different numbers of exposures for tonemapping.

Took a couple of shots today, one at 5 exposures and another of the same thing, but as 11 exposures. The 11 exposures is slightly down the hill, like half a metre distance. I actually prefer the 5 exposure shot.

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Landscape of same place, but taken with 7 exposures, different setting used in photomatix than the top two though.
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Re: Comparison!

Susan

Yes, number one is also my favourite. It seems more natural and real than the other two. I am a little 'old fashioned' in this regard. But I can see you are enhancing rather than deliberately over-cooking your tone changes - which suits my view of portraying natural things with more depth rather than creating an unreal scene.

The water and sunset are the two areas that I would say are far better in number one which is why I prefer it.

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Re: Comparison!

I'd vote for 1 + 3, number 2 lacks the intensity of the reflection above the lock gates - and the minute change in composition (the edge at the bottom) does not favour it.

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Re: Comparison!

These are great - well done Susan; though I wonder if you have mixed up 1 and 2 as the second is sharper than the first, though it's labeled as having 11 exposures rather than 5? I'd have thought more exposures would lead to less detail - especially in the areas of the shot are 'active', like the water.

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Re: Comparison!

Susan,

I like them all and its nice to have these comparisons. My preference is for No3. I know it is controversial but the water looks more real and I like the sunset reflection in the water.

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Re: Comparison!

Interesting images. I like the third one the best.

I appreciate the work you put into these images, but I am still not sure about HDR/Tone mapped images. They look "wrong" to me. That said, they are very good technically and I hope you enjoy taking and making them.
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I agree with Peter, in both respects of the water and the sunset.
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Re: Comparison!

All very good, but it`s #3 for me.
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Re: Comparison!

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They look "wrong" to me.
Basically because the images _are_ "wrong"!

Still, I quite like the 'other worldly' look in some subjects - particularly Garrie's derelict buildings. A bit like 'Eraserhead' in colour! I particularly like his 'Pirniehall'(sp?) school image.

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Re: Comparison!

Apart from what ever it is in the bottom right corner number 2 gets my vote. Number 1 and 3 are so obviously tone mapped where as number 2 almost looks natural.

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Re: Comparison!

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Basically because the images _are_ "wrong"!

Still, I quite like the 'other worldly' look in some subjects - particularly Garrie's derelict buildings. A bit like 'Eraserhead' in colour! I particularly like his 'Pirniehall'(sp?) school image.

Jim
They are not 'wrong' any more than any other artistic representation is wrong.

We forget that our perception of images is learned, a young child viewing an image has to be shown what the various representations mean - hence the highly simplified use of colours/perspective in infant books, as a child ages they become more sophisticated because they have learnt the conventions that characterise a particular medium. We, as photographers, have learnt a set of conventions to view images, many of those conventions are based on the limitations of the medium.

HDR alters how some of those limitations/characteristice are interpreted, they therefore look strange/different from our learned perspective. But we already accommodate in our visual repertoire the different conventions of watercolours, oils etc and the different approaches to imagery that originate in different cultures.

Different - maybe, imposing its own limitations - certainly, often overused - without a doubt. But wrong - No. No more than colour photography is wrong compared to the artistic purity which is black and white.

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Re: Comparison!

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They are not 'wrong' any more than any other artistic representation is wrong.
But I took J.Baker's comment that they look wrong to mean that they're not an accurate representation of what most would perceive as reality. The images may be artistically pleasing, but they wrongly represent the actual scene in the same way as a B & W image would.

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