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I can also quote another apocryphal story, from many years after. I was told, among the many tales about Colin Chapman, that he often asked his senior execs "Why are we always looking for new customers?" No-one, it was said, dared tell him.
So true. Yet it is far better and cheaper to look after existing customers than to find new ones.

Better still, if you look after your customers they will tell their friends and collages, who will come to you on a plate.

But accountants just don't get that logic.
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Re: The Old Boiler Needs Replacing

Yes, couldn't agree more.

We went on a Baltic cruise. The line concerned seemed to me to be concerned about one thing: how to extract the last dollar and cent from their customers. They charged $7.08 for a 1 litre bottle of water (and they of course "didn't recommend" drinking the water out of the tap); passengers were going and filling bottles from the cold water dispensers (probably filled from the tap...). A large notice appeared on each dispenser, saying, "due to public health concerns, refilling of bottles is NOT PERMITTED." (Many ignored that!) Bottle of cheap table wine? $41.50. Want a decent cup of coffee? Got to pay extra for it.

They didn't cater for diabetics; I had serious blood sugar swings. I complained. Make any difference? Is the Pope a Buddhist?

The food was very salty. Why? Need I tell you?

Would we go with them again? Like Hell we would!
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They charged $7.08 for a 1 litre bottle of water (and they of course "didn't recommend" drinking the water out of the tap); passengers were going and filling bottles from the cold water dispensers (probably filled from the tap...). A large notice appeared on each dispenser, saying, "due to public health concerns, refilling of bottles is NOT PERMITTED." (Many ignored that!)
Hmmmm. There are very specific rules about potable water on vessels carrying more than twelve passengers.

Potable water on passenger vessels is usually very much better than that in hotel rooms on shore.
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Hmmmm. There are very specific rules about potable water on vessels carrying more than twelve passengers.

Potable water on passenger vessels is usually very much better than that in hotel rooms on shore.
Well, I'm sure you'll draw whatever conclusion you wish from that. The tap water didn't taste very nice, but then neither did the iced water in the dispenser, once it had warmed up. If the tap water was not for drinking, one would expect there to be a notice on it saying so....wouldn't one?
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Well, I'm sure you'll draw whatever conclusion you wish from that. The tap water didn't taste very nice, but then neither did the iced water in the dispenser, once it had warmed up. If the tap water was not for drinking, one would expect there to be a notice on it saying so....wouldn't one?
Potable water systems are regularly cleaned with sodium hypochlorite. Potable water tanks are either stainless steel on small vessels, or painted steel on larger vessels. The paint used must hold a certificate for Potable Water; which means that it cannot contain phenol and certain other raw materials that could taint or pollute the water.

Depending on the size of vessel and length of voyage the tanks will either be filled with water from on shore, or more likely from on-board desalination plants which work by reverse osmosis. Chlorine will be added to the water as a matter of course to kill any bugs.

Desalinated water always tastes horrible, (or rather tastes of nothing), so that could be why the tap water was unpalatable.

Remember, shower water can transmit infection, so the piped water must be reasonably clean in any case.
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Potable water systems are regularly cleaned with sodium hypochlorite. Potable water tanks are either stainless steel on small vessels, or painted steel on larger vessels. The paint used must hold a certificate for Potable Water; which means that it cannot contain phenol and certain other raw materials that could taint or pollute the water.

Depending on the size of vessel and length of voyage the tanks will either be filled with water from on shore, or more likely from on-board desalination plants which work by reverse osmosis. Chlorine will be added to the water as a matter of course to kill any bugs.

Desalinated water always tastes horrible, (or rather tastes of nothing), so that could be why the tap water was unpalatable.

Remember, shower water can transmit infection, so the piped water must be reasonably clean in any case.
Hence my cynicism.....
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