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Actually I do think that #4 and #11 on your list are true but the rest are garbage. Thanks.
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Single use plastic is an abomination. How can we squander such a valuable resource. Our Kids and their Kids and their Kids are gonna have all the problems we are making, if humanity survives that long...ÖÖ...
Mark, if you come to Kenya, don't have any plastic bags in your luggage. If caught carrying a plastic bag, it is a serious offence. It is a step in the right direction https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-or-40000-fine
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Mark, if you come to Kenya, don't have any plastic bags in your luggage. If caught carrying a plastic bag, it is a serious offence. It is a step in the right direction https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-or-40000-fine
How do you get round that you have to have any liquids in a clear plastic bag when you board the plane
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Re: How are we going to save the planet?

The Kenya thing, would it include zip-lock bags and the like?
Often carry a plastic bag or two, just to put things like shoes and dirty washing in.
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The Kenya thing, would it include zip-lock bags and the like?
Often carry a plastic bag or two, just to put things like shoes and dirty washing in.
I have not tested the authorities with a zip lock bag.

I must have a sign on my forehead which says "Mug-search me" ...

Most of the time, customs at the airport ask if I have anything to declare and when I do, they say 'have you a list of what it is and do you have the receipts'. Import tax is 40% tax. We then come to an agreement, without my bags being searched (usually).

In Feb this year it was my wife's birthday and a nephew in the UK who works for Dyson, asked if I could take her a Dyson Hairdryer, worth £349.

At customs, I was stopped and they asked me if I had anything to declare. I told the guy, I had a hair dryer in my hand luggage for my wife. He said 'Oh it can't be worth anymore than £10, he laughed and without seeing it, he said its not as though its $1000, then he said, there is nothing VAT'ble here' and told me to be on my way.

I think what they would be looking for a supermarket carrier bag, moreso than a little zip-lock bag that you will keep and not throw away. Last year at a police road block in Nairobi when my car was searched, I was caught by the police for having a black plastic bag in the boot. I pleaded ignorance and was let off with a small fine. From that, I learned to keep my car things in a cardboard box and never to carry any plastic bag.
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How do you get round that you have to have any liquids in a clear plastic bag when you board the plane
So far, I have not been challenged over a 100ml bottle of Listerine I carry in the hand luggage. I never throw it away and use it as a refill for the mouthwash.
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Re: How are we going to save the planet?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...council-dumps/

But as usual, Newsthump has a better take on it:

http://newsthump.com/2018/10/09/pens...-michael-gove/

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But youíll only get sloppy seconds after the tip nazis have had their rummage first.
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Along with climate change, it seems that deniers want to believe all sorts of nonsense. Pick from any of:

- NASA never went to the Moon
- The earth is flat
- 9/11 was a conspiracy by the US government
- Trump is a good President
- White people are smarter
- Megan Markle is a robot
- Various secret groups are controlling the world
- Lizards are controlling the world
- The Holocaust didn't happen
- Princess Diana was murdered by the Royal Family
- Brexit is a good idea
Re. number 4. Newsthump spot-on as usual:

http://newsthump.com/2018/10/05/toil...-massive-turd/

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Re: How are we going to save the planet?

How can anyone think Trump is a good idea. I asked an American couple if there was anywhere, anywhere at all, to read any positive articles about him and his clowns, the answer was ‘well, yes, but it’s always buried on page 3 or 4 of the Washington Post’
So unless you’re reading the Redneck Weekly (incorporating The Racist and Misogony Times) you’re unlikely to come across any pro Trump propaganda.
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Ah well, I have already done that!

I rescued a perfectly good Coutant 35V 5A power supply that was about to go into the skip because it wasn't regulating properly. A pair of new 2N3055's fixed that.

I rescued more than a dozen reams of very nice 100 gram paper from the back of a Range Rover that were about to be recycled because of a small logo at the bottom right of each sheet. (I think the business had either ceased trading or had changed their corporate logo.)

Best of all, shortly after we were married we bought a new Hoover from the electric light showrooms in Durham using a £30 trade in allowance - except we had nothing to trade in. The Saleswoman didn't seem bothered as long as she made a sale but a few weeks later we received a stroppy letter from the Electricity Board warning that if they didn't receive our old vacuum cleaner within two weeks they would add £30 to our electricity bill!

Following a trip to the tip and a £2 backhander I took great pleasure in visiting the electric light showrooms with the scruffiest, dirtiest Hoover you have ever seen. The expression on the Saleswoman's face when I handed it to her with gloved hands was priceless.

('Like a princess holding a Navvies dick' came to mind.)
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('Like a princess holding a Navvies dick' came to mind.)
Well thatís an expression Iíve never heard before, and a good one too.
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('Like a princess holding a Navvies dick' came to mind.)
Nigel, are you commenting from personal experience or merely covert observation ?

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Nigel, are you commenting from personal experience or merely covert observation ?

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It was a term often used by one of my colleagues in the Lab; a broad Geordie and a real character who always reminded me of the actor Tim Healy. As you can imagine it always cracked me up!
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Re: How are we going to save the planet?

The truth is we are NOT going to save the planet because the biggest single driver of human endeavour is greed and greed trumps everything else, however noble, however truthful, however sensible. It is like a built in obsolescence hard-wired to our brains.

Way back in 1989 Ben Elton's first novel, "Stark" was published, a brilliantly funny satire of this very problem that has proven to be more prophetic than anyone could have known.

In many ways we are wasting our time trying to fight the problem; because of greed and self-interest on an individual, national and global scale, whatever we do will always be too little, too late. Rather than prolong the misery we might as well get it over quickly, in the hope that a few surviving species of other animals might adapt and prosper in a new and very different world as humanity becomes marginalised or even extinct. Sorry to depress every one, but we might as well face up to it now rather than be surprised when it actually happens and much sooner than we think. But don't worry, it's in our DNA.
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