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Re: BMW drivers won't like this - or maybe they won't care!

Had an Audi TT back in 2003-5, great little car.
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There is a click stop /detent position but itís not as obvious as any others and there is a tendency to manually cancel the indicator as a result, this often has the effect of causing it to indicate the other way, so you manually cancel and guess what! (The process restarts) Hence I can see why a driver would find it easier to not indicate rather than suffer the alternative.
Vauxhall cars use a very similar system, which makes it very easy to indicate the wrong way when trying to cancel the wretched things!

The answer is to indicate the same way again which cancels the indicators, but if you leave it too long you get three more flashes.

It's OK when you get used to it. However, the dip/main switch on the indictor stalk is the easiest I have ever used.

I think the idea is that everything is relay controlled so everything is cancelled when you switch the car off including the rear fog lights (for Tim's benefit).
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Re: BMW drivers won't like this - or maybe they won't care!

For me it’s the mechanical feel of the indicator stalk that’s the problem.
I forgot to add that sometimes when trying to stop the seemingly random indicating it’s easy to push the stalk a little too far and end up flashing the high beams, just to add to the annoyance of it all!
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Re: BMW drivers won't like this - or maybe they won't care!

Back in the 70s my mate's dad's best mate owned a 3.0l BMW and laughed at my mate's dad when he bought a Daimler Sovereign (badge engineered Jaguar XJ6), making the usual jokes about needing two so that one will always be available etc etc. His BMW spent more time in the garage than on the road while the Daimler needed nothing other than routine servicing. About the same time my parents' neighbour finally bought the Mercedes he'd coveted for years and had a similar experience. He sold it within a year and bought a Vauxhall Carlton. I had a BMW 525i rental car briefly when my company Vauxhall was off the road after somebody ran into the back of it. The seats were like boards, the engine had an annoying whine, and the back end slid around like a python on speed. That was the one and only German car I've ever had. The Germans (apart from the Bavarians) call BMWs "Bayerische Mist Wagens" .

I've had five Saabs precisely because they were not BMWs or Mercedes and all but the last were pretty good. That last was a 9-5 Aero which had too much GM content which used to wear out frequently (brake discs and the like). Clarkson wrote a piece once about advertising people being able to tell all sorts of things about you given the car you drive, unless it was a Saab in which case they wouldn't have a clue!
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Re: BMW drivers won't like this - or maybe they won't care!

WE had a series of SAABs starting in 1971 with a 96, then a 99, a series of 900s getting more power and then a 900 GM and finally two 9-5 estates- the last on was sold in 2015. There was only one one manufacturer left on the choice table after that - a Chinese owned, built in Belgium originally designed in conjunction with Ford with a 5 cylinder boat engine (ish) and now being built in the lannd where they know how to design cars (as well as 'Blads)
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I had a dilemma when it was time to part with the 9-5 until I happened to watch a Channel 4 documentary sponsored by the Alfa Romeo Giulietta, a car which had flown completely beneath my radar. After some investigation I took the plunge and am now on my second; both have been very reliable and are fun to drive - and easy to find in the car park because it's unlikely there'll be another one there! The Saab 9000 had been designed in conjunction with Fiat and Alfa Romeo so I felt there was enough of a connection .
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Had an Audi TT back in 2003-5, great little car.
Same engine as my Skoda Octavia vRS. Sporty performance with a huge boot.

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Re: BMW drivers won't like this - or maybe they won't care!

Seems that cars can be as emotive as cameras
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Same engine as my Skoda Octavia vRS. Sporty performance with a huge boot.

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Mine was the 225BHP coupe version, huge boot too, cos the two rear seats were utterly pointless.
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Re: BMW drivers won't like this - or maybe they won't care!

Seeing as we are fessing up about cars I thought a bit of 90's retro was in order with some history.

I tend to buy cars that are high spec and a year or so old and then keep them for as long as possible, or until they start getting expensive to maintain.

Back in the year 2000 I urgently needed a new car to replace my ageing 2.0 litre Cavalier but didn't like much of what I saw on the forecourts within the price that I was prepared to pay. I had resigned myself to buying a new Vectra which pained me greatly, but I really needed a new car!

Anyhow, I drove to our local Vauxhall main agent not feeling terribly enthusiastic, but what should I see as I drove onto the forecourt was this: the Dealer Principal's car, nine months old with 8,000 miles on the clock and ostensibly used for demonstration purposes. The price ticket was £14,999 which was about £4,000 less than the Vectra that I had resigned myself to. It was a no-brainer as far as I was concerned.

Enter the Silver Ghost as she became known.


























It all looks very dated now but it was a superb and very comfortable car which I owned for just over ten years in total and apart from its appetite for brake disks I had very few problems.

Sadly the replacement model (the Signum) never really appealed to me so I had to find another rear wheel drive car with the same or greater power, better fuel consumption (not at all difficult in this case) which was comfortable and ideally not German badged.

(The Omega was of course German built and at the time was a direct competitor to similar BMW and Mercedes models.)

I should add that these photographs were taken when the car was eleven years old so she had remained in remarkably good condition.

Oh, and photographs taken with my E1 of course for true retro.
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Count me out. I have never felt attached to a car, or referred to one as "she". The only emotion I have shown took the form of expletives.

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Same engine as my Skoda Octavia vRS. Sporty performance with a huge boot.

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Not necessarily - some TTs had the 3.2 v6. Mine has
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Count me out. I have never felt attached to a car, or referred to one as "she". The only emotion I have shown took the form of expletives.

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Car problems then Harold?
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Not necessarily - some TTs had the 3.2 v6. Mine has
The early TTs had the 1.8, 5 valve, OHC, injection, turbo AIRC.

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