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A couple of shots from the shore at Annan.

First is a big stick.



Then a big dog who wanted to pick up the big stick.



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Taken with E500 and sigma 10-20.
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Re: Black and White

Quite like the first one - I think it is the simple disproportion between the 'stick' and the landscape.

The second, well to my old eyes there is not enough contrast between the subject and the 'stick'.

I wonder what technique you used to generate the black and white - are these greyscale or...?

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Hi Nick they were converted to B&W using picasa. I agree that the dog merges into the stick which was disappointing as he was a beauty.
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Re: Black and White

Which begs the question 'how does picasa do the conversion'?

Most 'default' conversions are close to greyscale and use the 'brightness' to determine the degree of grey/white.

But there is often different 'brightnesses' for each of the 3 colours (RGB), a lot of picture editors let you choose how much to emphasise each colours information when you produce the mono version (much like sticking a coloured filter on the camera). This may well help in the contrast of the scene.

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Re: Black and White

I should just have moved to the side Nick

I cannot see any way in picasa to alter the lightness for the rgb.

Perhaps it was actually better in colour? Although still a lack of contrast.

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Re: Black and White

I'd have to agree with Nick here, the conversions do look rather flat and lack the sort of punch that gives the mono wow factor, I'm not familiar with Picasso so can't offer any advice there I'm afraid.
Some pictures just don't translate well into mono and are best left in colour, for me your second picture falls into this category, I'm glad you posted the colour version.
Mono can be very rewarding and is my preferance but it does take practise to get right, I would encourage you keep trying
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Re: Black and White

I had hoped to demonstrate (OK I've done it before) the advantages of playing round with the rgb mix in conversion - alas dropping the colour image into the GIMP shows that the bleached area of wood reflects light well in all colours - and of course the dog shines - so there isn't that much potential.

Anyway the colour version is a nice shot - with colour providing the differentiation light can't.

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Thanks for the comments and encouragement

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I think the problem here is simply that the dog is of almost identical colouring to the log behind it, so when converted to mono almost get merged into one & other. I think this particular picture does work better in colour
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Re: Black and White

Still playing with mono and revisited the scene for the shot above.

This time I set the e500 to mono and cloned out the navigation aid at the river mouth. Has this improved the shot in any way ? I would be very pleased to receive any comments.

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