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Ampney All Saints.

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What a beautiful church and very nicely photographed. Superb pictures, Nick, but I wouldn't expect anything less from you!
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What a beautiful church and very nicely photographed. Superb pictures, Nick, but I wouldn't expect anything less from you!
I'll have to lower your expectations to a more realistic level

My first attempts at this church are here http://www.temple-fry.co.uk/church/9..._Saints001.htm

It would be nice to think that in a couple of years I'll look back from the same perspective at my current shots - however I fear not

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I'll have to lower your expectations to a more realistic level

My first attempts at this church are here http://www.temple-fry.co.uk/church/9..._Saints001.htm

It would be nice to think that in a couple of years I'll look back from the same perspective at my current shots - however I fear not

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Hmmm, I see what you mean! It's true that once you reach a certain level it becomes almost a plateau and any further improvement is by marginal increments, if at all.

But whilst you're wandering around that vast table-land in frustration, vainly seeking even the smallest protuberance of higher ground, spare a thought for those of us still struggling to advance above sea level!
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Re: Down Ralph, Down....

Lovely photos of a lovely subject. I remember our local church being like that, carved wood and wooden pews etc, but they removed them to put "waiting room" seating in.

I think my favourite one is the last one, I like the way the light is coming through the window.
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Re: Down Ralph, Down....

Those first two are excellent, however the third one has too much of the HDR halo about it. You can see the detail and all, but the HDR features make my mind go a bit odd*

Good stuff though. Keep it up.

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Re: Down Ralph, Down....

Lovely rich colours Nick, #1 does it for me, I like the central symmetry. Our churches up here in Northumberland seem to be more austere than the ones I see from further south.
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Those first two are excellent, however the third one has too much of the HDR halo about it. You can see the detail and all, but the HDR features make my mind go a bit odd*

Good stuff though. Keep it up.

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*well, more odd, that is.
Oh dear - I've been accused of making an hdr looking image by Pete - but Tracey likes it because of the light (which was what I was trying to emphasise).

Well I can't go down in 'history' as producing hdr like shots (though the effects were actually more due to using dodge to merge down a layer) - so I've reprocessed from a different photomatix merge of the same shots.

Now have I lost the light?

Actually the results show my lamentable lack of understanding of perspective and my bad habit of shooting from an angle. But, I cry, the angle opens up archways and makes a more engaging informal image. Well yes, but the results twist reality further than a politicians autobiography.

Now my simple mind suggests that if shoot from an angle then the effective vanishing point should shift by the same amount but in the opposite direction, but then how to work it all out and apply it defeats me. So I just wobble the edges till I get tired or confused (and certainly, like the politician, forget what the world's really like).

Don't suggest I buy photoshop - if I could afford that I'd put the money towards a 7-14, and raise my casual distortions to the level of art.

Anyway here is the original (on the left) and the re-work on the right. Side by side to make comparison easier and just a bit too wide to make it hard again.



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Hmmm, I see what you mean! It's true that once you reach a certain level it becomes almost a plateau and any further improvement is by marginal increments, if at all.

But whilst you're wandering around that vast table-land in frustration, vainly seeking even the smallest protuberance of higher ground, spare a thought for those of us still struggling to advance above sea level!
Thank you John for the undeserved compliment.

Your posts suggest you have more than sufficient familiarity with the mountain top to be well clear of global warning.

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Re: Down Ralph, Down....

Oh no, stick with the original version!
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Re: Down Ralph, Down....

I'm always amazed by the range of subjects you manage to catch so well.
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The Original looks good to me!
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Re: Down Ralph, Down....

Breathtaking detail in all of them.........keep the original as the re-worked one looks like one of like you have tried too hard to get something.

I asume you used a different kit in the earlier shots as they look good but feel some better equipment was used.

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Breathtaking detail in all of them.........keep the original as the re-worked one looks like one of like you have tried too hard to get something.

I asume you used a different kit in the earlier shots as they look good but feel some better equipment was used.

Keith
p.s. can't work out the title...why down,down ?
Well the ones currently on the site would have been shot with the e-500 - but what has improved, I hope, is me.

Well Ralph could be a dogs name (or not) and its Down Ampney and I couldn't think of anything better.

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Re: Down Ralph, Down....

Thanks Edward/David and John.

Thing is I sort-of share Petes reservations about the original.

Doesn't look like anyone will put me right about perspective.

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