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Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

Took a couple of quick hand held shots of tonight's moon with the EM1 & 40-150pro plus 1.4 tc. Then thought about trying the x2 DTC setting. Cropped both to about the same size to post here. Used the jpg shots for this and didn't do any processing other than crop.
First without


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I think I prefer the x2DTC version.

Here's the x2 one with a bit of a contrast boost and slightly sharpened.


Overall I was quite impressed what the kit hand held could do.

Maybe I'll use a tripod and do it seriously next time.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

Haven't tried the moon with the 40-150mm yet. I need to do so and compare it with the 75-300mm.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

Both look good but agree with you re DTC shot.

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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

Ed not sure why that would be but it does just seem to have the edge.
OM yes I'd be interested in that comparison too. I had my 75-300 stolen about 18mths ago now and I've been wondering if I should replace it now I have the 40-150.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

I use the 2x quite a lot and am always impressed by the result, as proved again here.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

Just for fun, these are all uncrop straight out of camera. The only thing I did was added the words in red for the lenses used. Full size are included in the link. Just click on the picture to see it.







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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

blu-by-u that's a brilliant comparison nicely done. That old 70-300 lens certainly pulled it out of the bag. Looks like I'll be getting mine out to give it a dust off. To be honest they all did pretty well. You don't have the m4/3 75-300 as well to add to this do you?
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

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I think I prefer the x2DTC version.
The first seems to have more of a colour cast, suggesting to me it may have been lower in the sky. How much time was there between the two shots? IMO Atmospheric effects (turbulence etc.) are likely to be responsible for the difference - higher in the sky means less atmosphere to distort the image so tends to give better results.

Certainly the results show the DTC works well enough to be very usable.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

There was only about a second between the two shots, just long enough for me to dive into the menu and activate the DTC, so I don't think the atmosphere changed much.
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blu-by-u that's a brilliant comparison nicely done. That old 70-300 lens certainly pulled it out of the bag. Looks like I'll be getting mine out to give it a dust off. To be honest they all did pretty well. You don't have the m4/3 75-300 as well to add to this do you?
Thank you Phill D. Unfortunately I do not have that m4/3 75-300. The current dream lens is that Panny 100-400
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

I'm interested by that lens too. One day maybe.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

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Just for fun, these are all uncrop straight out of camera. The only thing I did was added the words in red for the lenses used. Full size are included in the link. Just click on the picture to see it.

Very interesting comparison.
Are these hand held?

One easy way to get even more detail from hand held shots of the moon and overcome the atmospheric distortion, is to take a few shots in sequence 10 to 20 and then stack them in free software like Registax. You will be amazed at the difference.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

They're all looking good, but I'm sure the best results would come from shooting raw and using LR to crop and general PP tidy up.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

I thought that too Paul at first until I tried it. It's very close but I do think there is a very slight advantage with three X2 dtc. It might be purely in my imagination though but it does give you the opportunity to pick your closer composition in camera.
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Re: Moon without and with x2DTC opinions?

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Very interesting comparison.
Are these hand held?

One easy way to get even more detail from hand held shots of the moon and overcome the atmospheric distortion, is to take a few shots in sequence 10 to 20 and then stack them in free software like Registax. You will be amazed at the difference.
I have never tried stacking. Can you give some examples of how this can be done?

Oh yes, all my shots are handheld. I am just a lazy photographer.
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