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What 'bridge' camera for portraits

Here's one for the extensive gear wisdom of you guys.

My son is after a camera, price up to 400, as a present for his wife - primarily for shots of their daughter. She has no photographic experience other than phone-snaps and I've ruled out interchangeable lens cameras. He's also thinking of a photography course for her, so he's looking for something which would be up to snuff for a beginners course.

They've got a 7 month old baby and have compared the shots from my E-M5 + the sublime 75mm portrait lens, with the output from their IPhone. Apparently the Oly combo wins

He's happy to go 2nd hand from a reputable dealer (with warranty), or someone I trust - i.e. from you guys.

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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

John, spotted this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Olympus-St...AAAOSwIgNXliIh

Seems a bargain to me ? and should fit the criteria ?

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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

Cheers. I've actually got a Stylus-1 - and I'm a bit miffed at that price

I'm not all that enamoured with the images I get out of it, but it may be my processing and/or the fact that I use it for holidays and trips when I'm not concentrating on the photography much.

I'll give it a proper try at baby portraits this Wed.
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

Hi John, the other camera I had in mind along with the above was the xz-1.Nice and compact that will fit in a shirt pocket. I took some a while back of my daughter's little boy, which if I can find the card I will post later.

As promised... these are straight out of the camera = nilprocessing. - There's also the xz-2 a newer model with, I believe a tilting veiw screen?





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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

I managed some quite good (imo !) pictures of the granddaughter with the Panny FZ1000. Also has the advantage of 4k video from which you can extract a still of "the moment".
I realise that they're over your budget new but I have seen them used for around the 400 mark.
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

A Panasonic LX100 would fit the brief, fixed zoom with long enough length for portrait work. 499 new, should be possible to get 2nd hand somewhat cheaper. Here's an example:
http://www.googleadservices.com/page...Q0QwISg&adurl=
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

London Camera Exchange have got a Panasonic DMC-FZ1000 at their Norwich branch. It is slightly over budget at 450 but I don't know if they are open to negotiation.

https://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Pana...00_156609.html

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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

I have a Panny FZ1000 you can have for 400
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

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... I've ruled out interchangeable lens cameras.
E-M10 plus Olympus 45mm ...

Un-rule-out.
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

Thanks for all these suggestions guys . I can't check them out with my son until tomorrow. Here's my current thinking

Glenn/Ron - I think the FZ1000 may be too big.
Glenn: In case it's ok size-wise - do you have the box & all the original bits?

Ulfric - Interesting! I think there may be a zoom requirement though. But for 400 what 2nd hand zoom could you get on an 2nd hand e-m10?

Steve - LX-100 looks good

Imageryone - Stylus-1 fits the bill on the face of it, need to check portrait quality. Wireless to phone is a big plus.

Wally - Images look pretty good, and that XZ-2 looks great - but not sure where to get it from - I can only see a couple of Amazon used deals.
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

Yes, the camera is boxed with all the bits except the original strap, it has a wrist strap instead and an extra battery.
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

Your typical "bridge" camera has quite a small sensor size but a large zoom range. They are good all round cameras but often have limited controls. Ideal for travel but, much like a camera phone, not on a par with the Oly+75mm.

The "enthusiast compact" camera segment is probably where you need to be (of which the Pany LX100 is a good example) - cameras with approximately 1" sensor (OK, the Pany is the standard MFT sensor), 5x zoom or thereabouts, and reasonable controls. They are a sensible compromise between overall camera size, good image quality, reasonable low level light ability (important for fast moving children inside), and would hold their own in a beginners course. This would mean looking second hand as new prices are high but you don't rule this out.

I haven't looked at the second hand prices so you will have do do a bit of legwork but here is a list of cameras to start you thinking.

Canon PowerShot G7 X, 20MP 1"-type BSI CMOS sensor | 24-100mm equiv. F1.8-2.8 lens | 1080/60p video
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-RX100 II, 1" 20MP BSI-CMOS sensor | 28-100mm equivalent F1.8-4.9 lens | NFC mediated Wi-Fi
Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II, 12.8MP 1.5"-type CMOS sensor | 24-120mm equiv. F2.0-3.9 lens | 1080/30p video
Canon PowerShot G5 X, 20MP 1"-type BSI CMOS sensor | 24-100mm equiv. F1.8-2.8 lens | 2.36M-dot OLED EVF
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 II, 20MP 1"-type BSI CMOS sensor | 24-100mm equiv. F1.8-2.8 lens | 2.36M-dot OLED EVF
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 IV, 20.1MP 1"-type stacked CMOS sensor | 24-70mm equiv. F1.8-2.8 lens | 4K video capture

I'm not going to make a recommendation as I am unfamiliar with any of these on a personal basis so I suggest you look at some non Oly specific web sites for details (I'm sure I don't have to mention which one) having found any examples that would be in your price range. Sorry in advance if none of these quite reach under the 400 mark second hand.
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

Having bought some really good glass to photograph my grandson, it's the XZ-1 that has by far produced the most "keepers"

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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

When photographing my grandson inside I loved the way I could use sequential flash shooting on my Stylus 1 & it was firing about 3 fps (with flash, normally 6 fps without). Other cameras with a 1" sensor may be a better option perhaps, so long as it also has a constant f2.8 lens (or better). Of course, it is good in normal light without flash as well.
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Re: What 'bridge' camera for portraits

Thanks for all this input everyone, I have some research to do now, but I'm getting a feel for what kind of camera would best suit.
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