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Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

Do you know this site ? Interesting...
Between these two lenses which would you get regardless the cost ?
This lens - one of these I mean - is to be used with an Oly 5 MkII, Oly 7-14 f/2.8 and Oly 14-40 f/2.8 when traveling or in any occasion... when I feel like
I am tempted by the f/2.8. But I am also tempted by the smaller size of the one on the left, the 12-100mm
I understand that the 12-100 doesn't go as far as the 40-150 which may have others purposes. But the reach of both doesn't bother me as I do not shoot birds...
My main concern is the quality of the final images.
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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

I have the 40-150mm Pro, it is a great lens quality wise. But its heavy and relatively large for what it is. I also have the 1.4TC. This lens is good for people shots, at carnivals and shows. Not powerful enough for birding though.

I have never used the 12-100mm. But If I had one, I think for general photography the 12-100mm would be far more versatile. The zoom range must be good, especially at the lower end. But I cannot comment on its quality..............

My other lens is the 12-40mm Pro, which works very well for me. But it lacks that top end zoom........

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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

Thank you Mark.

I understand your point of view and I think you are right, regarding the lens versatility.
But I am afraid to get it and not have the quality I usually demand from the equipment I generally use.

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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

There will be plenty of replies here, as I believe its a favourite lens (12-100mm) of many of our photographers. ..............
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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

If you really mean it when you say "My main concern is the quality of the final images" then it has to be the 40-150.

You suggest, however, a niggling concern about size and weight. For travel purposes you could leave your 12-40 (I assume that's the one you mean) behind and just take the 12-100. It'll be very good for a 'superzoom' but, if you forget every factor except ultimate quality, I believe that the 12-40 + 40-150 will win.
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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

It is a difficult decision.

I feel the 12-100 at F/4 is too slow for some situations so I never purchased it. Even if I shot at F/4 (I often do) I think that the extra light gathering of F/2.8 will help with faster time to focus in poorer light. (I would like to see some experiment evidence for this as I may well be wrong.)

The problem of course that 12-100 is the perfect zoom range for a general purpose walk around lens and many people have switched to this lens for just that purpose. There is a thread "Has the 12-100 replaced your 12-40 / 12-35?" which may help. This thread of course compares the 12-40 with the 12-100 rather than comparing the 40-150 with the 12-100 (which is what you are asking). I mention it as it appears you already have the 12-40 ("This lens... is to be used with an Oly 5 MkII, Oly 7-14 f/2.8 and Oly 14-40 f/2.8" but I guess you meant the 12-40.) but do you really want a 12-40 and a 12-100 as there is a large overlap at the low end which is a common focal length in MFT. If you are out and about and change lens from the 12-40 to the 12-100 to get that 40-100 focal range would you ever put the 12-40 back on unless you needed the F/2.8?

Having purchased the 12-40 and 40-150 soon after they became available the 12-100 never beckoned to me as it was a lot of money that did not offer much that I didn't have. If the 12-100 had been F/2.8 to F/4 with F/2.8 (or near) out past 40mm focal length then I might well have been convinced as a replacement for the 12-40 but not a replacement for the 40-150 as I like the longer focal length of the latter and it is very usefull with the 1.4x converter. I also think that the 12-100 is just a tad too long to hang around ones neck as you walk around. I should also mention that although I wouldn't walk around with the 40-150 hanging from my neck I have no problem hand holding it to take shots.

Quality wise all the reports and anecdotal reviews put the 12-40, 12-100, and 40-150 all as very good so you can not really choose based on just quality. You need to ask yourself do I really need F/2.8 (I think I do) and will I ever want to shoot at more than 100mm (again I do)?
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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

Both are excellent and I find it impossible to separate mine at the same aperture (f/4).

The 12-100 is really quite amazing in terms of the image quality for x8+ zoom, of course you have to compromise with f/4 but it is sharp out of the blocks at that aperture. Such a flexible all in one solution, it tends to sit on my E-M1 MkII most of the time now.

The 40-150 f/2.8 wonderful too and makes an idea partner to the 12-40. It is possible to bird with it if you're lucky
One legged Robin by Huw Prosser, on Flickr

Lastly I couldn't part with my older 12-40 f/2.8 when I purchased the 12-100 because its such a great performer too. Especially nice for a more compact carry around.

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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

They're both great lenses (I have both). But they serve different purposes. The 12-100 is just about small enough to be a good walk-around lens, but the 40-150 is way too big for that. They are both excellent wide-open.
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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

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If you really mean it when you say "My main concern is the quality of the final images" then it has to be the 40-150.

You suggest, however, a niggling concern about size and weight. For travel purposes you could leave your 12-40 (I assume that's the one you mean) behind and just take the 12-100. It'll be very good for a 'superzoom' but, if you forget every factor except ultimate quality, I believe that the 12-40 + 40-150 will win.
Thank you Mike for your 2 cents !
I could - but I will not - get both lenses
No decision is made... so far.
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It is a difficult decision.

I feel the 12-100 at F/4 is too slow for some situations so I never purchased it. Even if I shot at F/4 (I often do) I think that the extra light gathering of F/2.8 will help with faster time to focus in poorer light. (I would like to see some experiment evidence for this as I may well be wrong.)

The problem of course that 12-100 is the perfect zoom range for a general purpose walk around lens and many people have switched to this lens for just that purpose. There is a thread "Has the 12-100 replaced your 12-40 / 12-35?" which may help. This thread of course compares the 12-40 with the 12-100 rather than comparing the 40-150 with the 12-100 (which is what you are asking). I mention it as it appears you already have the 12-40 ("This lens... is to be used with an Oly 5 MkII, Oly 7-14 f/2.8 and Oly 14-40 f/2.8" but I guess you meant the 12-40.) but do you really want a 12-40 and a 12-100 as there is a large overlap at the low end which is a common focal length in MFT. If you are out and about and change lens from the 12-40 to the 12-100 to get that 40-100 focal range would you ever put the 12-40 back on unless you needed the F/2.8?

Having purchased the 12-40 and 40-150 soon after they became available the 12-100 never beckoned to me as it was a lot of money that did not offer much that I didn't have. If the 12-100 had been F/2.8 to F/4 with F/2.8 (or near) out past 40mm focal length then I might well have been convinced as a replacement for the 12-40 but not a replacement for the 40-150 as I like the longer focal length of the latter and it is very usefull with the 1.4x converter. I also think that the 12-100 is just a tad too long to hang around ones neck as you walk around. I should also mention that although I wouldn't walk around with the 40-150 hanging from my neck I have no problem hand holding it to take shots.

Quality wise all the reports and anecdotal reviews put the 12-40, 12-100, and 40-150 all as very good so you can not really choose based on just quality. You need to ask yourself do I really need F/2.8 (I think I do) and will I ever want to shoot at more than 100mm (again I do)?
Thank you so much for all your words.
In fact it was a mistake when I wrote 14 instead of 12 referring to the Oly lens I have.
But your comments pushed me to add something more which is: my wife will be with me and she will have the Pany GX7 with one 12-40. I will have the 5 MKII with a 7-14 (gorgeous lens) and the 12-100 or the other...
I have two 12-40. One 3 years old and another one just bought recently with the 5 MkII (it was a very special bargain. that is another story)

I have always had top equipment. The Canon lenses I still have are all f/2.8 with an old 5D (first). Now, I am afraid that being a pixel peeper i may be disappointed with the f/4 lens and regret not getting the brighter one.

Coming back to what my wife has... when travelling we will change lenses of course. So, we will be able to shoot from 7 to 100 or 7 to 150 depending on the option.

Soon, next Saturday - the 17th March - there will be here a workshop with the Oly 1 Mk III and I was told that one will be able to play a bit with both zooms as I am deeply involved in the action.

For the moment I still hesitate...

Thank you again and have a nice week-end !
I post a photo to make the thread more pleasant ! (shot with 7-14)

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Both are excellent and I find it impossible to separate mine at the same aperture (f/4)... Olympus do manufacture some fantastic lenses.
Thank you Huw for your words.
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They're both great lenses (I have both). But they serve different purposes. The 12-100 is just about small enough to be a good walk-around lens, but the 40-150 is way too big for that. They are both excellent wide-open.
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I will make a decision, oh yes I will !!...

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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

I have both and find they both give excellent quality images. This week's Amateur Photographer has just tested the 12-100 and find it probably the best superzoom lens that there is.

Both might be considered a bit big for the E-M5 - I use them on an E-M1 Mk II - and the 40-150 definitely needs some commitment to keep on the camera. I only use mine when I really need to extra pull for sports or bird photography etc. But I tend to keep the 12-100 on the camera for general touristy type photography. The f4 doesn't bother me as I tend to use f5.6 as a standard aperture, and the camera/lens combined IS lets you get away with a slower shutter speed.

Perhaps the other point to consider is that you can add a x1.4 teleconverter to the 40-150 to make it a 56-210 f4 lens!
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Re: Which lens for the Oly 5 MkII ?

Another great help on the way to buy a new toy !

Thank you Chris !

I am more and more pending to this lens...

This time, a shot with the Oly 5 MkII + Oly 12-40 f/2.8
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