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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

The grass is greener on the other side... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46492070

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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

This is well worth a read: https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and...t-backstop-uk/

"The irony is that the UK-wide customs arrangement is almost universally loathed as something the EU is forcing on the UK, when in fact it was London’s invention, and one that it pushed to keep the DUP on board."
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

I thought I would copy this for you to read, it has come from someone who has a business and deals with the EU...
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[I]Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.

Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.

I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there.
I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.

Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea,
1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party.
2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down.
3/ You don't think it matters.

OUT OF EUROPE we need to be out of it
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Just some food for thought...
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I thought I would copy this for you to read, it has come from someone who has a business and deals with the EU...
Well it is from someone who can copy and paste a load of **** from 2 years ago.

https://editorofthechron.wordpress.c...urope-live-on/

http://ilovetheeu.co.uk/trade/no-the...out-of-the-uk/
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Well it is from someone who can copy and paste a load of **** from 2 years ago.

https://editorofthechron.wordpress.c...urope-live-on/

http://ilovetheeu.co.uk/trade/no-the...out-of-the-uk/
I LOVE THE EU ? Sorry but not worth wasting the minuscule effort required to click the link.

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I thought I would copy this for you to read, it has come from someone who has a business and deals with the EU...

Whoever wrote the original (source?) didn't bother to cite any sources so the whole thing is simply not credible. Absolute bull****.
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I LOVE THE EU ? Sorry but not worth wasting the minuscule effort required to click the link.
Well do your own research then! When you read through those type of lists it is obvious to anyone with any common sense that they can't all be true.

When you read "and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations." you know it is just made up.
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None so blind as those who will not see.
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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

A meeting is being held Dec 10th/11th in Marrakech, Morocco, to adopt the United Nations Global Compact for Migration. The UK seems very quiet on this are we going to sign up?
Will the EU signup on our behalf?

http://theconversation.com/global-co...sing-it-106654

More than a dozen countries have announced they will not sign the agreement. Western countries include: Australia, Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland, and the United States.
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Whoever wrote the original (source?) didn't bother to cite any sources so the whole thing is simply not credible. Absolute bull****.
Not much different to the vast majority of links posted in this thread then.

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Have you had an eye test recently Otto ?

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Have you had an eye test recently Otto ?

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As it happens I have, and I'm on the waiting list for an operation on my left eye. However my right eye works perfectly .


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The list missed out that Elvis's flight to the moon was funded by the E.U.!

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Re: Political: We're doomed, Captain Mannering...

It's not an eye test we all need, but to shove the internet items such as FB, Titter, etc., back into the dark ages. Far too many of these are being used by the wrong people for all the wrong reasons.

Want to know what the *hite House is upto, get it on-line from "The Unreal Donald infamy, infamy, everyone's got it infamy @ Fake News" etc.

Is it any wonder, therefore, that people get misled when even our owm politicians use it and others like "I'm a Celebrity so FO out of here" to obfuscate the real issues to their way of thinking.

So before we all call each other an a**s, look in the mirror and ask the question... am I one of those?


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