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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

Having read the comments and looked again, several times:

The second shot, from the raw file, appears to show more detail in both shadows and highlights. This shows up in the highlights on the boat foreground right, and in the shadows under the jetty behind that boat and to a lesser extent on the sea wall on the left. To me it looks better like that, but clearly others prefer a more punchy, contrasty look.

I would be interested to know whether you can massage the out-of-camera JPEG to bring out the details in these areas to the same extent as this treatment of the raw file already has.

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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

That's what i meant too John but you described it better.
Not sure what these rules are that are being broken here seems all ok to me
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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

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That's what i meant too John but you described it better.
Not sure what these rules are that are being broken here seems all ok to me
Giving a bloody computer scientist a lecture on the distinction between raw and JPEG. I'm pretty sure there's a rule about that.
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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

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Giving a bloody computer scientist a lecture on the distinction between raw and JPEG. I'm pretty sure there's a rule about that.
What if "cumputer scientist" number 1 is talking bollocks and "computer scientist"s numbers two three and four need to remind him of basic facts about image and data types?
Or is your "computer scientist" qualification so stratospherically higher than ours that our's don't count?
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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

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What if "cumputer scientist" number 1 is talking bollocks and "computer scientist"s numbers two three and four need to remind him of basic facts about image and data types?
Or is your "computer scientist" qualification so stratospherically higher than ours that our's don't count?
They are just files with data that can be processed or not by any given bit of software. There is nothing special, hard or terribly complicated about it. I think you all need to stop over thinking it.
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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

Going back to the original post by Internaut. If you follow the links to the two photos on Flickr they are both JPEGs, complete with the EXIF data visible. I rest my case.

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Going back to the original post by Internaut. If you follow the links to the two photos on Flickr they are both JPEGs, complete with the EXIF data visible. I rest my case.

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A JPEG is one of the file types that can be output from raw processing software. In this case the user directed the raw software to output a JPEG because that is the easiest way to get the output from the raw process to display here.

You might want to consider the distinction between an observation, a given and a case.
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Giving a bloody computer scientist a lecture on the distinction between raw and JPEG. I'm pretty sure there's a rule about that.
Don't think so Jason but it does seem like tempers are getting a bit frayed on something that you all seem to essentially agree on and that as far as I can see wasn't the main object of the thread. If you've gained the feedback you wanted then maybe time to cool the discussion?
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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

Are the Jpeg files just 0's and 1's as well. If you peek into them, they are just as jumbly as the RAW file...………...

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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

I think we ned to ask Jason (politely) to explain the difference between the processing of the two shots he gave us as the question in the title was about which we preferred. Please?
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Re: Old Town Harbour, Raw vs JPEG

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Giving a bloody computer scientist a lecture on the distinction between raw and JPEG. I'm pretty sure there's a rule about that.
Most scientists I've worked with have an inability to explain themselves. Quite ironic really when we were paid to explain complicated stuff to mere mortals!

I suppose you could of said, this what the camera did and this is what I did with my macbook and photoshop/lightroom/a-n-other-raw-converter..., which do you prefer?

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