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Focus Peaking

Having come from a Sony A6000 and Fuji X-T1 which both have excellent focus peaking I find the E-M10 underwhelming. Possibly I am using it wrong. Does it only work in manual mode for instance ? On The Fuji and Sony it worked all the time if turned on and was very useful in AF mode.

It seems a bit weak on the Oly and difficult to see or realise its actually there. I've got it set to "on" and "white"

Any advice appreciated
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Re: Focus Peaking

I have it turned on and white too.
I mainly use S-AF[MF] when it works when you touch the focus ring, zooming in on the focus area.
I agree it's not super useful for a whole scene but is when you're looking for something as sharp as possible in the focus point area.
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Re: Focus Peaking

It's just a little underwhelming. Only real problem I can point out compared to a Sony or Fuji... so not too bad. Good tip on the S-AF(Mf) I had mine just on S-AF
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Re: Focus Peaking

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Having come from a Sony A6000 and Fuji X-T1 which both have excellent focus peaking I find the E-M10 underwhelming. Possibly I am using it wrong. Does it only work in manual mode for instance ? On The Fuji and Sony it worked all the time if turned on and was very useful in AF mode.

It seems a bit weak on the Oly and difficult to see or realise its actually there. I've got it set to "on" and "white"

Any advice appreciated
According to the manual focus peaking is specifically provided as an aid to manual focusing and will work in both MF and AF+MF modes.. I don't use it much but find using red works better for me. In the Peaking Settings menu "cogs D" you can set Highlight Intensity to High which will give a more vivid display. Also set Image Brightness Adjust to OFF.

I am a little confused as to how focus peaking could be useful when using contrast detect auto focussing, can you explain please.

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Re: Focus Peaking

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According to the manual focus peaking is specifically provided as an aid to manual focusing. I don't use it much but find using red works better for me.

I am a little confused as to how focus peaking could be useful when using contrast detect auto focussing, can you explain please.

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The bolded type is exactly how I see focus peaking & why would you want it for anything else? I find the OP's criticism 'underwhelmingly' strange.
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Re: Focus Peaking

It depends what you are used to. For instance on a Sony and from memory (and thats probably the issue here...memory) the Fuji the focus peaking is much bolder and the focus area keeps the focus square, or squares, green until the shutter is pressed so you always know you are in focus. Whereas on the Oly the focus square blips once then disappears. Its just a case of getting used to a different system.

Even taking that into account the manual focus peaking on the E-M10 is still, for me, a bit "underwhelming" and weak in it's execution. It's not a perfect camera guys..... for everyone

It's damn good though and I'll keep practising
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Re: Focus Peaking

Just realised the camera was on spot metering. Put it on ESP and I get the focus peaking across the whole screen. Much better. I would still like the focus square and other focus points to remain on the screen until the shutter is pressed but thats probably as much to do with what I have been used to than anything else
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Re: Focus Peaking

Glad you've sorted that.

What setting have you used for "Highlight Intensity"? I set mine to High and the colour to Red and to me that was overwhelming.

I think that the Highlight Intensity setting is effectively a sensitivity adjustment.

I understand where you are coming from regarding the green box flash. In reality once focus is achieved and locked it isn't going to change as long as you maintain the "half press", just as you say what you are used to.

I did a bit of research on the web and found a You Tube video by a guy who with a Sony was using the Focus Peaking display in AF mode to show him depth of focus. Of course the DOF with 4/3rds sensors is greater than with larger sensor sizes. This is usually quoted by the larger sensor "fan boys" as a shortcoming of 4/3rds but in this instance it is an advantage as we don't have to worry about adequate DOF so much for most scenarios. We do have to work a little harder if we want shallow DOF but it's not the problem it's sometimes made out to be.
Keep enjoying your camera.

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Re: Focus Peaking

I agree, it's a case of getting used to a different system without "RTM" but I'm getting there
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