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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

Tim,

I sometimes feel the same.

This forum inspires & depresses me at the same time
I get inspired by the stunning photos but get depressed because they seem beyond me.

I have this evil little voice in my head telling me if only I had E5 my photos would be good too.

Three points:

I only use the 70-300 in A mode, I've never used that nature macro mode.
You can then wack a shot off at lowest F wind up to 8 and even further in the time it takes to focus & press the shutter. Often the F setting I thought would not be much good turns out the best.


I don't think the lack of IS is a big deal - I tend to have it switched off these days anyway

This might be rubbish, but I rarely use the zoom at 300 - I tend to back it off slighty (say 250).
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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

Homer "if only I had E5 my photos would be good too." LIES ! LIES! LIES! you have to work hard at the E-5 - massive manual - lots of techie options ...
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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

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Homer "if only I had E5 my photos would be good too." LIES ! LIES! LIES! you have to wrok hard at the E-5 - massive manual - lots of techie options ...
I'm resisting - honest
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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

A massive thank you to all the advise given to me in this thread, I am overwhelmed by the number of helpful responses. Before i go running off shelling out a fortune on new lenses (not the easiest thing to convince the other half of now we have our 10 month old son, Lewis) One of the common responses is movement so off I have been today and found myself a quiet spot and went to take a shot as I would normally paying attention to how much I move, Crikey! I would never make a sniper. I was all over the shop so I settled myself down and gotmyself into a solid comfortable position.

The result?


Dandelion seed head by Tim J Preston, on Flickr

I am extremely pleased with this and it shows some of the detail I am looking for, individual hairs are visible and the DOF is just right?


Dandelion seed head (2) by Tim J Preston, on Flickr

Honest opinions please?

Bugs I can see a slight improvement I can see some more detail coming with the hairs on the legs, this guy is probably not the best example to show as he was miniscule.


Winged bug by Tim J Preston, on Flickr

This guy had almost metallic paintork!

Longhorn by Tim J Preston, on Flickr

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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

"This forum inspires & depresses me at the same time!" NO INSPIRES AND CHALLANGES ME at the same time ...Yeah

I am in AWE of the information posted re shots/cameras/lenses/aperture/shutter etc., and its all
GREAT STUFF to try
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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

Any better?

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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

Definitely it's a matter of technique (as well as lenses). The camera itself is not likely the limiting factor but rather, how you're using it and with what.

The major issue you were having in my view with your previous shots is not so much the movement whilst taking the picture I think is the aperture not being high enough. I recommend using your camera on aperture priority (or manual) with a high f value (narrow aperture) when taking macro pictures.

I can definitely see an improvement with your more recent shots, but I think better lighting would improve matters. External flash is really needed. It can be hard I know to get an external flash to bounce downwards enough for it to light an insect, but I think aiming the flash directly tends to make the lighting too harsh.

Some sort of diffuser or reflector can help angle the light downwards whilst not making the light too harsh. It's been a while since I've done it, and it did look a bit ridiculous, but I used to tape a semi-opaque washing up liquid bottle to the end of my flash to act as a diffuser to direct the light downwards, softly. An omnibounce may help a bit for the more 'official' route.
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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

Timmy, YES lots of improvement in a month for sure !

I use a tripod, BENBO as each leg is adjustable not just in height, independent of each other but also length - thus one leg on the raised flower bed and two on the grass or path - each different heights when on a hill!

and a REMOTE SHUTTER RELEASE, its frightening how much movement there is, after you set up your shot in frame - then push that button!

Hope this helps you ! Grrrr to even better shots !
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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

I think we all, including myself, get caught up with the idea that the answer to better photographs is better kit. There is no doubt that better kit will help you to improve your images if you use the options you gain with skill and experience. "Pro" cameras are so called to appeal to professionals. I struggled initially to get to grips with the E30 when I upgraded from an E410 and even more now I also have an E5. Even after 18 months with the E30 and 7 months with the E5 I still have SO much to learn!

As a contrast this is a shot I took with a cheap 8mp compact with auto macro setting, although it did take a bit of stealth (displayed in a previous thread):





Despite my Pro Olympus kit, this is still one of my best macro images.

So be careful what you wish for!

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Re: Is this as good as I will get?

David I totally agree with your statements above !

Indeed this is why I said to Janet "you will learn a lot" with the E-20P she has just been given ! I feel like a beginner again - with the E-5 and indeed I am ! there is always a lot to learn and a high standard "to capture" with the next shot of ? whatever subject is on your NOW list ! and this is why I like the vast areas of photography ! ps this Dragon of yours is stunning !
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