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Old 6th October 2008
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Street Photography

In August I visited London and wanted to take some pics. Being aware of the issues surrounding photography in the Capital I was wary of taking photographs obviously, so I resorted to taking some pics from the hip.
I have no experience or knowledge of this type of photography and would appreciate any comments.

A Westminster Street

Looking Left!

Lunchtime in the City


Gathering outside the Cathedral
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Re: Street Photography

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In August I visited London and wanted to take some pics. Being aware of the issues surrounding photography in the Capital I was wary of taking photographs obviously, so I resorted to taking some pics from the hip.
I have no experience or knowledge of this type of photography and would appreciate any comments.
Hi Shirley

I don't have any real experience of street photography, though this is an area where I would dearly love to experiment and learn more in. I can say however that there are no issues in taking shots in London... just a perceived issue that's all. There are hundreds of thousands of tourists and visitors to London who are there every day taking photos, and none of these people are accosted by heavy handed security guards et al. You are quite within your rights to be taking photographs in London in public, and you need no permission to be so doing. Of course, if you're in a BR station, or other non-public area then you may need permission, but to take shots where you did, no permission is needed and you are fine.

As you have posted in the Looking for Perfection category, can I ask... what was it you were attempting to accomplish here...? Was it just some candid shots of random people, or was it a mood/atmosphere...?

I think these few shots are more 'candid' than 'atmospheric', maybe an objective of what you want to accomplish with this sort of shoot might help. Please don't take my comments the wrong way... I am simply wondering what it is you were trying to achieve here that's all.
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Re: Street Photography

Shirley,

This is one of my favourite types of photography. These are really good, the low shooting position gives a real feel to the candid nature of the images and add to the effectiveness of them.

One tip I have for you is to set the camera up in a way that best mimics the way you look at things. We all have quite wide angle vision but we concentrate and focus on only a very small part of our field of view. I have great fun trying to capture the image in my head and then compareing it with the image taken by the camera. I never cease to be amased at just how much more there is than I can recall. Sometimes I narrow the field of view to the point that I can remember most of the "picture" and then use the camera at that setting using my eyes as the viewfinder and not looking at the camera apart from aligning it with were I'm looking.

Experimentation is the fun part...

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Hi Shirley

I don't have any real experience of street photography, though this is an area where I would dearly love to experiment and learn more in. I can say however that there are no issues in taking shots in London... just a perceived issue that's all. There are hundreds of thousands of tourists and visitors to London who are there every day taking photos, and none of these people are accosted by heavy handed security guards et al. You are quite within your rights to be taking photographs in London in public, and you need no permission to be so doing. Of course, if you're in a BR station, or other non-public area then you may need permission, but to take shots where you did, no permission is needed and you are fine.

As you have posted in the Looking for Perfection category, can I ask... what was it you were attempting to accomplish here...? Was it just some candid shots of random people, or was it a mood/atmosphere...?

I think these few shots are more 'candid' than 'atmospheric', maybe an objective of what you want to accomplish with this sort of shoot might help. Please don't take my comments the wrong way... I am simply wondering what it is you were trying to achieve here that's all.
Hi John,
I realise that there is no problem in law, however because of the perception people can get very 'twitchy' and when on a day out I dont want to get into a position where I end up having to justify/argue my point. Anecdotal evidence suggests that there are enough 'jobs worths' out there to justify my caution. Only yesterday a friend told me how he was taking phots in London and was stopped by two policemen who had followed him and then said they were stopping him on the grounds of being a 'suspected terrorist'. Apparently the encounter was amicable, they checked him out with their Head Office, checked his pictures and agreed that he was doing nothing wrong. However, as he said, he is now on record somewhere as being stopped under the prevention of terrorism act! They also mentioned a concern that he might have been taking pictures of children, again not against the law, he wasnt and as he said what has that to do with terrorism?
Anyway I suppose what I am saying is that if I can avoid such confrontation then I will, if I do get into that position then I have no problem with standing up for myself and standing my ground.

With regards my photographs, I have to be honest and say that I simply wanted to have a go and see what could be achieved. I did not plan what I wanted to do, however next time I probably would.
I posted in this section because I wanted some honest feedback from those who do know about this type of photography and can point me in the right direction as to what I should be looking for in street photography. I definitely agree that they are more candid, however Graham's suggestions make me wonder if t would be possible to create a more atmospheric shot. I hope that makes sense, and no I didnt take it the wrong way it was in my view a valid question, which in itself has helped me to think more about how to improve next time.

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Re: Street Photography

There is no requirement under law to comply with the following :

Supply the police with your name and address.

Show them what you have been shooting (without a Court Order).

A request to delete images (without a Court Order).

• The police can only give you a pat down, remove outer clothes (eg jacket, hat), search your bags and have you empty your pockets
• You do not have to give your name and address
• You do not have to explain why you are there
• You are not allowed to flee the search, but you are not required to be actively compliant. You are allowed to 'go limp' as passive resistance during the search if you wish not to comply
• There is no permission to collect DNA data during the search
• You do not have to comply with any attempt to photograph or record you
• Women cannot be touched by male police during these searches
• Make notes about the officers searching you - name, number and police force
• Note the time and the events preceding the search
• Note the specific wording used by the police to explain their authority to search you
• Ask the police for the reason that they are searching you. Specifically, are they searching for terrorists or are they simply trying to deter, delay or inconvenience you?

Afterwards:
• Hold on to the Search Record or any other documentation the police give you (or note if you don't receive one)
• Make brief notes about the search while you still remember all the details
• Do not write anything down on the day that you don't want disclosed to the police. Police may search you again and be able to read anything that you have written down
• Consider making a complaint to the Independent Police Complaints Commission
• Write to Lord Carlile, the independent monitor of the implementation of anti-terrorism legislation (Lord Carlile of Berriew QC, The House of Lords London SW1A 0AA)
• Consider pressing charges if the officers used unnecessary force during the search

And remember....we are the most CCTV'd country in the WORLD....!
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Re: Street Photography

What a sad reflection of the society we have let ourselves become. Liked the shots though!
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Re: Street Photography

I would say they are all very good candid shots, but not 'street' work, which tends to look at humour in everyday life. By either finding a location or character first then matching the two.
Check this, one of the best I've seen in a while, note the shop sign in the backdrop.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/themoro...no/2522027116/
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