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Re: Is this the end for Ryanair?

I used to have to fly Pan Am. With them, all was well, until there was a problem, then they made Ryanair look like amateurs. How about all night stuck in a departure lounge in Miami airport, nothing to drink or eat, one toilet for a whole Jumbo, computers down, defective public address system, and temperatures around 100 F? They had served the salad on the defective airplane - which had stood on the tarmac for four hours, while they tried to fix it, in 110 degree heat, all electrics turned off (it was a switch confirming wheels up) so the salad was virtually cooked when we got it. Then they decided to ask 50 passengers to get off and go via Washington - while the meal was being served! Chaos? They invented it.

The airplane we got to go back to London on was the oldest tattiest Jumbo I had ever seen, off a South American run. The toilets stank all over the plane. No overhead lockers. And crammed in.

The CEO's name was Juan Tripp - and the joke was one trip was all you wanted on Pan AM.

Airlines have to be the worst possible way to travel, IMV!
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Without doubt. If it was easier to travel to Europe by train I would do it all the time.

On the subject of Ryanair, this caller to Nick Ferrari on LBC sheds a whole lot of new light on the subject. Some have questioned the authenticity of the caller but what he says seems to make a lot of sense.

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Without doubt. If it was easier to travel to Europe by train I would do it all the time.

On the subject of Ryanair, this caller to Nick Ferrari on LBC sheds a whole lot of new light on the subject. Some have questioned the authenticity of the caller but what he says seems to make a lot of sense.

LBC Nick Ferrari Phone In
Certainly sounds authentic, but we can't possibly know, can we? From what I have seen of Ryanair, I would believe it. But like osmose of the commentators said, BA isn't wonderful either! Used to be a prestigious job; but what is it now? One could make similar comment about the railways. The driver has a hell of a lot of responsibility with a full train, and driver-only trains aren't exactly good for the public anyway. What if there is a fight, or someone is ill? A guard used to deal with all this types of thing; but if there isn't a guard, properly trained in safe and safety procedures, one can be very vulnerable on a train, especially late at night. And doubly so, with so many stations now unmanned. Always seems to be about doing everything on the cheap, but charging a premium price for it.
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BA isn't wonderful either!

Used to be a prestigious job; but what is it now?

Always seems to be about doing everything on the cheap, but charging a premium price for it.
But why isn't BA what it used to be? There are many reasons, but the main reason has to be staffing costs and undercutting by the likes of Ryanair. If BA had continued to provide the same service that they did thirty years ago, whilst paying 1980's equivalent salaries for 1980's equivalent fares their planes would be empty.

The sad fact is that a combination of the internet and outfits such as Ryanair (and Sports Direct, Amazon, etc.) mean that there is now little choice for most businesses but to join in the suicidal race to the bottom.

Look on almost any retail website nowadays and the main selling points are headline price and how late at night you can place an order for next day delivery. Nobody is interested in the knowledge of the retailer or their after sales service until they need it.

We have collectively created this situation by handing our money to ruthless individuals such as Mike Ashley, Michael O'Leary and Jeff Bezos.

The situation for the railways is slightly more complex as the cost of staffing and track maintenance is huge. Track maintenance is a burden the airline industry doesn't have to worry about as the airlines don't have to pay for the environmental damage and destruction that they are undoubtedly responsible for.
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