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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

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Can't testify to the 100-400 performance as i havent got one yet but the 14-140 has served me really well for several years now. Only just replaced it with the oly 12-100 but will probably go back to it for general holiday stuff.

My 14-140 has yet to arrive as Panasonic don't seem to have any stock at present, but they're being chased by the shop for a likely timescale.


As for the 100-400, these are through our rather grubby patio doors handheld;



Nothing exotic - just getting used to the feel of the lens prior to taking out and about.


Will probably leave the long lens hood in the box along with the extension tripod foot though as I dislike having to use bolt on bits when I'm out and about...
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

Those last three photos are great, despite the double glazing.

If you use LR6, then the dehaze slider button really pirks them up, gets rid of that "mist"..................

Not sure what the equivalent is in other software.......
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Those last three photos are great, despite the double glazing.

If you use LR6, then the dehaze slider button really pirks them up, gets rid of that "mist"..................

Not sure what the equivalent is in other software.......

No I've never had LR, in fact not really into doing that much 'post' work - I've got a very old version of Elements, but the only way there to 'de-mist' is to create a blank white layer, set it to 'Color Burn' then use the paint brush tool going over the picture in light grey. Gives this kind of result;

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Is that the sort of effect you'd expect?
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Yes that make the photo work well..............
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

300 or 100-400, my descision was made on my normal shooting situation, this is yesterdays focal lengths, i feel a fixed 300 would drive me crazy.


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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

Mik how did you generate that list? looks pretty useful.
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

Just played with this thought.....

Goto LR6, Library, Metadata, Camera info, and choose focal length.............

Yet to export it, but a real educational data if you want to analyse your lens usage.........
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

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............I've got a very old version of Elements, ............
In Elements (however old) you can simply use the Levels control (Enhance Brightness/Contrast Levels...).

On your young-Blackbird image, you'll notice a small gap at the left-hand (LH) end of the histogram, which shows there are no true blacks. Simply move the LH slider to close this gap, or take it a little further to enhance the effect.

I find that the three sliders of the 'Levels' control are usually all I need for basic JPEG image enhancement. If more is needed, it's better to work on the RAW image.
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Mik how did you generate that list? looks pretty useful.

I download into Adobe bridge it shows that and a lot more.
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

Been out and about with the 100-400 today & it is a pleasure to use, just my inability to find what I'm looking for in time to take the picture is quite frustrating (darn birds flitting around, thankful for the odd lazy squirrel) but that's a common problem I'm guessing? Still managed to get a few good shots, though still need to get better at handholding










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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

When you consider the narrow FOV you can be working with @ 200-800 it can take a bit of practice.
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

Despite the worries about repairs, for me the 100-400 is way high on my list of lenses to get.
Currently with my Nikon D850 I use a Sigma 150-600, almost always at 600, and still crop a fair bit when taking wildlife or motorsport pictures.

When I had my first EM1 I had the 12-40 f2.8 and the 40-150 f2.8 along with a 75-300mk2 - right now, having only just got another EM1 (Thanks James!) I only have a 14-150 but already have been reminded why I likes it so much, so assuming the lottery comes up I'll be getting a Mk2 and the 100-400 and maybe a 12-100 then maybe a wide prime.
I would really struggle with the limitations of a fixed focal length on such a long lens as the 300 f4 despite how good the images it can produce look, and fear it wouldn't get much use.
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

I elected to ignore possible repair issues, after all it hasn't proved to be an overly problematic lens. Accidental damage can be negated by home insurance cover (new for old). I might however have a word with the Panasonic shop about the cost of an extended warranty.
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

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I would really struggle with the limitations of a fixed focal length on such a long lens as the 300 f4 despite how good the images it can produce look, and fear it wouldn't get much use.
Like many people I wrestled with the 100-400/300 decision, going eventually for the latter.

I find it rare that I miss a zoom - I suppose I'm very used to shooting with primes so I imagine I just naturally look for the sort of shot that suits. So many birds in the UK are small and/or far-away that 600 or even 840 is the default for me, with some cropping. Same goes for semi-macro use, where I find you can almost always just zoom with your feet.

I have a second body on which I put the 40-150 f2.8 +/- 1.4tc, but I don't very often take it or use it when I do (although this really comes in to its own for example for game drives and when some of the wildlife is predictably going to be close).
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Re: Decided to go long - but what to choose?

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Despite the worries about repairs, for me the 100-400 is way high on my list of lenses to get.
Currently with my Nikon D850 I use a Sigma 150-600, almost always at 600, and still crop a fair bit when taking wildlife or motorsport pictures.

When I had my first EM1 I had the 12-40 f2.8 and the 40-150 f2.8 along with a 75-300mk2 - right now, having only just got another EM1 (Thanks James!) I only have a 14-150 but already have been reminded why I likes it so much, so assuming the lottery comes up I'll be getting a Mk2 and the 100-400 and maybe a 12-100 then maybe a wide prime.
I would really struggle with the limitations of a fixed focal length on such a long lens as the 300 f4 despite how good the images it can produce look, and fear it wouldn't get much use.

With being a poor pensioner i had it in mind to keep a spare 4/500 to cover repair costs, that obviously will not work.
I have 6 months warranty left on my 100-400 so saving now incase it fails next year. As things stand i would buy a new 100-400 if needed but if Olympus bring something out Panasonic can kiss my ****.
I just wish m4/3 was popular enough for Sigma or Tamron to adapt their 100-400.
This is from the Sigma 100-400, some long third party lenses would shake things up a bit.


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