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Bigma 50-500

I have the chance to buy a Sigma 50-500 . I already have the 70-300 and ec14 is the Bigma worth considering for the long range pics I have been told it is not an easy lens to get sharp photos ?
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Re: Bigma 50-500

I had a 70-300mm and had some very good results with it but under certain lighting conditions it was very difficult to get anything worthwhile. I then purchased a Sigma 50-500mm and it was a revelation, my hit rate went up by an order of magnitude with some very sharp images. It is however a very long focus lens and does need s fair bit of skill to use for this reason. I sold mine as I was only using it at 500mm, to buy the 300mm f2.8, which doesn't give a much better IQ but is a bit brighter. If you have a chance to buy it at a reasonable price go for it, you won't be disappointed. If you have any doubts just look at PeterD's album!

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Re: Bigma 50-500

I agree with David. The Bigma is a good lens but it does take time to learn how to get the best from it. Even though I now have the 300mm I'm keeping the Bigma for occasions when something longer is needed.
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Re: Bigma 50-500

I have just bought one, being a little woman (5'4 and small frame) its a VERY HEAVY BEAST for me! So I am using a monopod and Giotto - tripod too gangly 3 legs in countryside to lugg about!

Peter has some most amazing shots of the Peregrine Falcons with his - BUT this lens needs good and lots of light and lots of practice to get settings right for you camera at the 500 end ! Peter has E-5 and the quality is AWESOME.
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Re: Bigma 50-500

As birds are one of my main subjects the BIGMA is the lens that is mainly on my camera. The large FL range from 50-500 gives a lot of scope for other uses as well though. As others have noted it is heavy but I've found you can develop muscles without the expense of going to the gym to workout. I wouldn't be without mine, if you think you need a long fl lens with the option to go down as low as 50mm as well I would snap it up as Sigma have recently stopped making it in 4/3 fit.

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Re: Bigma 50-500

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As birds are one of my main subjects the BIGMA is the lens that is mainly on my camera. The large FL range from 50-500 gives a lot of scope for other uses as well though. As others have noted it is heavy but I've found you can develop muscles without the expense of going to the gym to workout. I wouldn't be without mine, if you think you need a long fl lens with the option to go down as low as 50mm as well I would snap it up as Sigma have recently stopped making it in 4/3 fit.

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If you think the "Bigma" is heavy try the 300mm f2.8 - nearly twice the weight!!

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Re: Bigma 50-500

Well Ozzie, it looks like a good goer. You have 2 advantages so far, you will probably have better light here & you have the E5.

I'd be intersted in one at a good price too.

I wish you well John.

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Re: Bigma 50-500

Thanks everyone for the replies. Will start the negotations streight way.
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I look forward to see your "Training" and "Best shots" ! I am still on Training shots !
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Re: Bigma 50-500

Interesting comment about the 300 2.8 IQ not being much better than the Bigma, although brighter.

I think that needs some qualification. The 300 ought to be more contrasty and sharper and probably offer superior bokeh.

So are you saying this isn't so or are you factoring in use at 500 versus 300 so decrease in quality through cropping, or using a converter with the 300?

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Re: Bigma 50-500

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Interesting comment about the 300 2.8 IQ not being much better than the Bigma, although brighter.

I think that needs some qualification. The 300 ought to be more contrasty and sharper and probably offer superior bokeh.

So are you saying this isn't so or are you factoring in use at 500 versus 300 so decrease in quality through cropping, or using a converter with the 300?

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Well f2.8 v f6.3 is more than a 'bit' brighter.
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Re: Bigma 50-500

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Interesting comment about the 300 2.8 IQ not being much better than the Bigma, although brighter.

I think that needs some qualification. The 300 ought to be more contrasty and sharper and probably offer superior bokeh.

So are you saying this isn't so or are you factoring in use at 500 versus 300 so decrease in quality through cropping, or using a converter with the 300?

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Yes I was referring to the final image of any particular subject after cropping. The 300mm definitely has a sharper, more contrasty image, as it should do being a prime versus a 10x zoom, but looking back at my collection of the same birds taken from the same location it is very difficult to see the difference and the Bigma @ 300mm only seems to lose out on brightness. The EC20 with the 300mm gave disappointing results with lack of contrast and sharpness being the main problems but the EC14 does the job with no noticeable degrading of the image from the bare lens.

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The EC20 with the 300mm gave disappointing results with lack of contrast and sharpness being the main problems but the EC14 does the job with no noticeable degrading of the image from the bare lens.

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Re: Bigma 50-500

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Interesting comment about the 300 2.8 IQ not being much better than the Bigma, although brighter.

I think that needs some qualification. The 300 ought to be more contrasty and sharper and probably offer superior bokeh.

So are you saying this isn't so or are you factoring in use at 500 versus 300 so decrease in quality through cropping, or using a converter with the 300?

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MEAN that Olympus are addressing the poor AF and lack of Tracking ? because that would be AWESOME witht he BIGMA & E-5 ?????

(rattling pennies here for E-5 ...
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I look forward to see your "Training" and "Best shots" ! I am still on Training shots !
Unfortunately that will have to wait a bit longer I was one hour late with my offer the seller had sold by the time I got back to him
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